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  A Review By Carl Jonsson Of Rolf Furuli'sBook On Chronology.

  by hillary_step in

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  this may already have been posted, but if not i am sure that carl jonsson will forgive my linking his review of furuli's book from another site,.

  http://user.tninet.se/~oof408u/fkf/english/furulirev.htm .

  best regards - hs.

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  bavman

  A simple synopsis of this debate is that the Jonsson hypothesis is a desperate attempt to to discredit a biblically based chronology simply upon one interpretation of a Hebrew preposition in Jeremiah 29:10, The Oslo Chronology demonstrates the superiority of a biblically based chronology which determines the exact beginning of the seventy years as its foundation.

  It seems that Jonsson by means of his review of Furuli's research simply repeats his tired assertions and stumbles into the mire of poor exgesis of the seventy years.

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  RUSSIA: Sacked for being Jehovah's Witnesses

  by blondie in

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  this article was published by f18news on: 4 may 2004russia: sacked for being jehovah's witnesses

  by geraldine fagan, moscow correspondent, forum 18 news service

  sergei popov and aleksandr takhteyev, two of three jehovah's witnesses sacked on 1 april by a private firm on the russian pacific island of sakhalin, claimed to forum 18 news service that there was a direct link between the decision to sack them and the ban on the jehovah's witnesses in the russian capital imposed by a moscow court several days earlier.

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  Alan F

  Your comments concerning the WTS possible encouragement for Christians to violate ethics and to break government laws if expedient to do so is frankly an absurd and false. Your talk of ethics and principles sounds rather hollow when you have rejected Christaian beliefs and have even rejected ethics and teachings based on the Bible from your youth/childhood. I believe that people who have rejected beliefs that were previously convinced intellectually are deceived and weak-minded.

  Your state of mind is pitiful and merely displays a vile hatred of that which you formerly believed and held sacred.

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  The ``Four Presidents" Book: Impressions, Anyone?

  by Room 215 in

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  i've just finished reading the ``four presidents" book and am ambivalent about it.

  much of it strikes me as illuminating if overly anecdotal; its impact is for me vitiated by (1) the paucity of documentation and (2) the anonymity of its author and contributors, however sympathetic i am to their reasons.

  perhaps the most valuable part of the book are the notes and their copious references in early jw literature to bizarre, now-discredited beliefs.. while much of it rings true and is consonant with my first-hand experiences, i find the allegations of incidents in which young bethel boys engaged in late-night homosexual limousine liaisons with wealthy new yorkers hard to believe (these were alleged to have occurred at a time when i was there at bethel, and would almost certainly have seen or heard of any such via the ``grapevine" to which i was as well connected as anyone).. readers out there, what are your impressions?

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  Room 215

  I found the book on the Four Presidents very interesting but having anonymous sources renders the publication a mere curiosity. I was somewhat surprised how little was said concerning Fred Franz and his scholarly abilities and influence, the rest was simply familiar knowledge. The Mystery doctrine was and is fascinating but hereagain more could have been said.

  Overall it is a must read book but really says little of any significance.

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  scholar and 1914

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  hello, scholar

  can you name a single thing of significance that the watchtower society or charles russell taught about 1914 prior to 1914 that was accurate?

  marvin shilmer

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  Leolaia

  Thank you for your most interesting post which contain many questions and issues. The subject of religious experience or mysticism is one that interests me greatly particularly as a Witness. Some have felt that there is no mystical element in our theology and worship, a view that I totally reject. However, this is an area that warrants careful attention because I am trying to demonstrate that there is a common core for religious experience which has beemn investigated by Rudolf Otto but the philosophical base for such a belief fas been challenged by Steven Katz and others.

  For my thesis on comparative religion I have selected Pseudo Dionysius, Meister Eckhart through to Heidegger for Christianity with attention paid to Plotinus. For Hinduism, I will be looking at Sankara and the Vedantic tradition and with Buddhism, the Madhyamika school and its adcocates. As you say this is a rather broad area so I haven chosen the best representatives of those traditions and hope to distill the common elements which may be traced to Otto;s concept of the numinous.

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  scholar and 1914

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  hello, scholar

  can you name a single thing of significance that the watchtower society or charles russell taught about 1914 prior to 1914 that was accurate?

  marvin shilmer

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  Leolaia

  My undergraduate and postgraduate studies in religion and philosophy both Western and Eastern amounted to a total of 40 units of study. My religious studies focussed on Christianity, Hinduism and Buddhism. The thesis topic deals with an ontology of religious experience revealed in Christianity, Buddhism and Hinduism.

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  scholar and 1914

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  hello, scholar

  can you name a single thing of significance that the watchtower society or charles russell taught about 1914 prior to 1914 that was accurate?

  marvin shilmer

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  Mary

  Your comment that the 1914 doctrine is built on sand and that the Society knows it is false is frankly a stupid comment to make. The recent Watchower article on the Gentile Times upholds the validity of this traditional understanding of scripture whether you choose to accept this or not.

  As a matter of interest I am a active publisher and have completed postgraduate studies in religion and I am currently working towards a doctorate in this field. Now this may surprise you that a Witness would dare do such a thing but life is full of surprises

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  scholar and 1914

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  hello, scholar

  can you name a single thing of significance that the watchtower society or charles russell taught about 1914 prior to 1914 that was accurate?

  marvin shilmer

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  Mary

  You are a cutie. Jesus warned about traditions and the Apostle Paul admonished Timothy to keep holding to the pattern of healthful words - 1Timothy 1:13.

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  The Ugly Truth about Jesus 2nd Presence

  by Amazing1914 in

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  as jws we learned the utmost central watchtower doctrine that jesus returned "invisibly" in 1914 (well it was 1874, but then j. f. rutherford decided jesus really, really, really returned at a later date ... this is also known to jws as "jesus second presence" (greek: parousia = english: presence):.

  ref.

  related new thread at: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/70098/1.ashx .

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  AlanF

  To the contrary, I have simply stated the facts as these appear in the reference material. The rendering of Mark 13:4 and Luke 21:7 by the NWT is grammatically and contexually correct: cf.Matthew 24:3 and I challenge you to prove otherwise. Why do you not seek the learned opinions of Greek scholars as I have asked repeatedly? You know very well that when push comes to shove that this most brilliant translation is correct as you in previous postings have admitted that the NWT is a remarkably good translation or words to that effect.

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  The Ugly Truth about Jesus 2nd Presence

  by Amazing1914 in

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  as jws we learned the utmost central watchtower doctrine that jesus returned "invisibly" in 1914 (well it was 1874, but then j. f. rutherford decided jesus really, really, really returned at a later date ... this is also known to jws as "jesus second presence" (greek: parousia = english: presence):.

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  related new thread at: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/70098/1.ashx .

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  Alan F

  In Mark 13:4 and Luke 21:7, melle is a verb with present tense, active voice, subjunctive mood followed by the infinitive. Thus according to the advanced Grammars this verbal construction denotes a durative future aspect and is fittingly rendered by the NWT as '"are destined...'".

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  scholar and 1914

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  hello, scholar

  can you name a single thing of significance that the watchtower society or charles russell taught about 1914 prior to 1914 that was accurate?

  marvin shilmer

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  Mary

  You have a theory about the Gentile Times but I believe the Society's view in keeping with tradition is superior to yours;

  Regards

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