I don't think they could regard Thanksgiving as pagan since it was inaugurated by Christians, but it's still against the rules. Really, the whole "it's pagan objection" is just an excuse to isolate JWs from non-JW family members.
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I want to know what celebrations JWs don't consider pagan?
by Chook ini could only think of weddings and wedding anniversaries .
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Saudi Man Sentenced To Death For Atheism
by Bangalore insaudi man sentenced to death for atheism.. http://www.newsweek.com/saudi-man-sentenced-death-after-declaring-himself-atheist-online-video-591473.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-man-sentenced-death-atheism-ahmad-al-shamri-hafar-al-batin-appeal-denied-a7703161.html.
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Hothabenaro: Islam and acting civilized are incompatible. To a real Muslim, rape is allowed and even murder. It is what happens when u worship a pedo.
Cofty: It is entirely in keeping with the commands of the pedopile prophet
I don't admire Muhammad, but whether or not he was a pedophile seems irrelevant to the discussion. I've known good people who happened to be pedos through no fault of their own; being attracted to children doesn't automatically make someone an evil mass murderer.
What's wrong with Muhammad is that he succeeded where Charlie Manson failed by starting a murderous cult that somehow became a major world religion. That's what people should be focusing on, not his alleged sexual peccadillos.
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Saudi Man Sentenced To Death For Atheism
by Bangalore insaudi man sentenced to death for atheism.. http://www.newsweek.com/saudi-man-sentenced-death-after-declaring-himself-atheist-online-video-591473.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-man-sentenced-death-atheism-ahmad-al-shamri-hafar-al-batin-appeal-denied-a7703161.html.
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Is his man is being executed for atheism specifically, or just apostasy? I mean, if he were Jewish and said he no longer believed in God, would the Saudi government execute him for that?
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How do the GB micro-manage people's lives today?
by UnshackleTheChains inhow do the gb micro-manage people's lives today?one example is their micro management in dress and grooming.
eg their view of beards.
elders in most congs will take a brother to a corner and remind him why jws don't grow beards.
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Millie210: Then there is the birth control policy. No IUDs and no morning after pill. You are not supposed to use any contraception that could interfere with implantation. During this same time period, vasectomies were a no-no if you wanted to be a Pioneer or servant.
I stand corrected.
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How do the GB micro-manage people's lives today?
by UnshackleTheChains inhow do the gb micro-manage people's lives today?one example is their micro management in dress and grooming.
eg their view of beards.
elders in most congs will take a brother to a corner and remind him why jws don't grow beards.
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How does the GB micromanage the lives of JWs?
Answer: Any way they can.
A better question might be: In what areas does the GB not micromanage their lives?
Despite the oft quoted phrase "matter of conscience" that you occasionally find in the Watchtower, there are precious few areas where those crochety old men don't intrude. Diet. The consumption of alcohol. The decision to use contraception. These are the only places I can recall where JWs are actually allowed to think through an ethical dilemma using their own brain; though I anticipate that the GB will eventually get around to shoring up these holes in their net of control (it's not like they have anything better to do). Even completely non-ethical issues, like dress and grooming, are decided for JWs in advance. Everything not forbidden is compulsory.
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JW's And Yoga
by pale.emperor inthis was partly discussed in this thread: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4853755331739648/these-common-jw-beliefs?page=2#!#5701815683252224 but i wanted to delve into the topic of yoga even further.. it seems watchtower have no clue what yoga actually is, or what it can achieve.
i myself dont practice yoga, but i do meditate and see the benefits of that.. here is an artical from watchtower 2002 with my commentary:.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2002565#h=1.
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So one religion, Hinduism, has taken the practice of yoga and used it. That doesnt make yoga exclusively a Hindu thing though does it? Just like JW's have taken the wedding ring, wedding cake and ear piercings and used them.
Yes it DOES. These are all pagan customs that I'm sure the GB wil get around to outlawing soon. Just because the GB has made some concessions over the years to worldly customs does not give JWs permission to practice demonic rituals like yoga!
I'll have to disagree with you there and say YES! Many people of no religion practice yoga and use it to control their diet, blood pressure and mental disposition.
Yeah, and they are using the power of the demons to do these things even if they don't know it.
I call bullshit on this one. It is true that the human body is amazing and capable of doing remarkable things such as withstanding heat and cold under the proper training. But as for transmitting thoughts and super hearing this has NEVER been proven under scientific conditions. If it had it would be a world wide groundbreaking discovery that science would use for the advancement of humanity. So far, no proof has ever come forward.
Demons don't want scientists to discover their existence, as this would convince them that Jehovah exists too. Demons only reveal themselves to those who already believe so they can either harass them or tempt them away from Jehovah.
Not so amazing. Lying on a bed of nails is pure physics. Anyone can do it. The weight of ones body evenly spread over the bed of nails in the correct way is no great feat. As for hot coals, hell, Tony Robbins does this at the end of every seminar with his students. Again, pure physics.
No, pure spiritism. Tony Robbins is demon possessed!
I've seen Penn and Teller do this trick too. Then they shown you how they did it. No major feat there either.
Top magicians like Penn & Teller get their powers from demons! Haven't you ever watched their HBO show 'Bullshit'? These are vulgar, demon-possessed men who seize every opportunity to mock Jehovah and his followers. They HATE God!
No it isnt. That's just the hindu take on it. Go speak to a Buddhist, a Jain, a Trantic or any other school of yoga. There are many!
Moksha, Nirvana and all the rest are just synonyms for demon possession. I can't believe how stupid and naive you are about this! Satan CREATED these religions. Open your eyes!
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Oooh, caught a JW colleague telling porkies at work this week.
by nicolaou inthere's a jw 'sister' at work, lovely girl in her mid twenties.
anyway, on monday the union (cwu) called a one day strike in support of colleagues and all union members supported the action as far as i'm aware, except the sister.. she claimed it was 'against her religion' to strike.
bare in mind, she's a fee paying member of the union.. now, a few of my workmates know of my past and asked me if this was really true, that jehovah's witnesses aren't allowed to strike.. we'll, i like this girl and i didn't want to make her look silly but what was i supposed to say after i stopped laughing?
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I'm not aware of any explicit prohibition on striking, but it's consistent with the WT's emphasis on not getting involved with the world and passively enduring hardship. If this girl went on strike she would become more than a JW, she would be a union member and would inevitably start to feel some comraderie with her worldly coworkers. For this reason, I think it is wise of her to abstain. Getting involved with wordly people for any purpose, even a temporary one such as a strike, is just asking to become demon kibble.
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Anyone Heard Any Good DEMON Stories Lately?
by Cold Steel ini saw this recent account on youtube recently and wondered if anyone had any good spook stories?
haunted books?
ouija boards?
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Heathen: I prefer that people stay on topic of which is about ghost stories
Sorry, but stirring up fundamentalists has always been an irresistible temptation for me. But I do have a ghost story for you. Like most true ghost stories, it's not scary at all and actually fairly mundane. In fact, I'm pretty sure it was just a flight of imagination, but here goes...
When I was 14 my great uncle, who was legally blind, drove off a cliff with my great aunt in the driver's seat. My uncle walked away with some minor injuries, but my aunt ended up in a coma. I visited her in the hospital the following day and, while her condition had seemed to have stabilized, the doctor didn't know if she would ever wake up.There wasn't anything to do, so we left the hospital.
On our way home, my mom and I stopped at Walmart to pick up some groceries and when I was walking through the aisles I distinctly saw someone who looked exactly like my aunt. To my surprise, she made eye contact with me, smiled and said she loved me but she was dead, then literally vanished before my eyes. I dismissed it as a hallucination until we got home and found a message on our answering machine. It was the hospital. Apparently my aunt had died while we made our way home.
While this had a strong emotional impact at the time, looking back I think it was probably a hallucination brought on by stress. If she had died instantly after the accident and appeared to me before I even knew anything, I would be less skeptical. Still, I suppose it could have been her.
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Anyone Heard Any Good DEMON Stories Lately?
by Cold Steel ini saw this recent account on youtube recently and wondered if anyone had any good spook stories?
haunted books?
ouija boards?
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cofty:
There is nothing for parapsychology to investigate apart from fraud and delusion.LOL!
So anything that falls outside of your experience or puny preconceptions is either fraud or delusion? How convenient! Yours is just the sort of cognitive rigidity that I was criticizing in my OP. You remind me of Victorian era astronomers who would ridicule people who said they saw rocks falling from the sky (meteorites) because these educated men just knew that there are no rocks floating around in the atmosphere despite what those chicken-little laymen thought they witnessed.
Man, I know you're sincere, but there are times when I can't help but suspect you are a bigger troll than me.
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Anyone Heard Any Good DEMON Stories Lately?
by Cold Steel ini saw this recent account on youtube recently and wondered if anyone had any good spook stories?
haunted books?
ouija boards?
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There is nothing to address. Parapsychology failed as a way to explain something that has been explained by normal science/psychology. That isn't to say parapsychology failed in and of itself because it did prove that it wasn't ghosts or whatnot i.e. found no reasons to support the notion of anything supernatural; it just failed as an explanation.
I think we are defining 'parapsychology' differently. Genuine parapsychology does not argue for the existence of ghosts or anything else supernatural; rather parapsychology studies phenomena that others interpret as supernatural and attempts to come of with a rational explanation for them; which is something that science has been doing all along since its inception.
The only difference between parapsychology and most other branches of science is that the phenomena studied by parapsychologists are so rare that progress is very slow when compared to branches of science that focus on more mundane subjects like physics and biology. Nevertheless, the basic idea is still the same: come up with rational, quantifiable and falsifiable explanations that don't require some supernatural agency like gods or demons.
This ain't Ghost Hunters. If anything, it's more like Scooby-Doo.