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  The wages of sin...

  by joey jojo in

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  somewhere in the bible it says; the wages of sin is death.. just death.

  not pain or anguish or agonising illnesses.

  so , why do we have to endure all of the heart-breaking torment that goes along with life?

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  Life is the real punishment. To die means to have served one's time. Like almost everything, the Bible writers got this ass-backwards.
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  Jehovahs Witnesses and Conditional Love

  by Christian Gutierrez in

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  a hey guys this is a short story of a witness who could never find unconditional love kfrom the congregation and family members.

  cheers!!!

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjv5pdkqicm.

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  Witnesses are deluded with their conditional "love" and imagine that it's like a light switch that can be flicked on and off. The human brain doesn't work that way.

  I agree and yet this is exactly how the brain of a JW does seem to work. There were some exceptions - one of my friends began to tear up when we met each other by accident outside the KH - but in most cases of DFing I have witnessed, the shunners don't seem to experience any remorse are internal conflict over what they are doing. Perhaps they were simply hiding their feeling very well, but the point is I saw no evidence which would have suggested this.
  
  
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  A Scientific American discussion of current thinking on a biological basis for same sex preferences

  by fulltimestudent in

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  the scientific american web-site has the above article, dated april 25, 2017. its entitled, "cross-cultural evidence for the genetics of homosexuality - mexico's third gender sheds light on the biological correlates of sexual orientation.".

  here's the link to the article: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/cross-cultural-evidence-for-the-genetics-of-homosexuality/?wt.mc=sa_facebook-share.

  and the first few paragraphs .... the reasons behind why people are gay, straight, or bisexual have long been a source of public fascination.

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  Simon: The reality is it's probably neither and both.

  You are probably right. I'm no expert on sexuality, but experience has taught me that there is almost never a single cause behind any phenomenon; most effects are the result of multiple chains of causality that come together to form 'the perfect storm'.

  I had one gay friend who confided in me that he was 'abused' as a child by several older males. I put 'abused' in quotation marks because he said that he really didn't consider himself a victim and in fact enjoyed every second of it. This man was not into boys at all; he liked big, hairy manly men! In his case I suspect that he was probably just born gay; though I'm sure a fundy Christian would point to his early sexual experiences as the root of his homosexual feelings. I think if he had been straight, he would have looked back on those experiences in very different light. The lucky bloke hit the jackpot!

  But on the nurture end, I could use my own kink as an example: I'm straight, but I have been a hardcore masochist for as long as I can remember. When I was six years old I was already the sub of a very domineering and sexually precocious little girl who would molest me at our daycare when no one else was around. When I was seven I had a crush on my summer school teacher; a young woman who was as cruel as she was beautiful... I remember having sexual fantasies about her before I even knew what sex was. Could my early sexual experiences have predisposed me towards lusting after cruel and domineering women? There is no 'could have' about it.
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  A Scientific American discussion of current thinking on a biological basis for same sex preferences

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the scientific american web-site has the above article, dated april 25, 2017. its entitled, "cross-cultural evidence for the genetics of homosexuality - mexico's third gender sheds light on the biological correlates of sexual orientation.".

  here's the link to the article: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/cross-cultural-evidence-for-the-genetics-of-homosexuality/?wt.mc=sa_facebook-share.

  and the first few paragraphs .... the reasons behind why people are gay, straight, or bisexual have long been a source of public fascination.

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  It's an interesting question on a purely academic level, but what's always bothered me about the nature vs nurture debate on sexuality is the implication that the answer could have moral implications. If someone is born with a certain sexual preference then it is utterly pointless to try to change them, let alone condemn them; but if it's a result of imprinting at an early age then perhaps gays, sado-masochists and even pedophiles could be 'cured' someday. Maybe they should be forced to seek treatment.

  I don't have an opinion either way but I am personally very happy to see that scientists are looking for a biological cause rather than a psychological one. If the only way for prudes to finally accept the sexually different is to say "well, they were born that way so there is nothing to be done." then I am all for it. I just hope that it doesn't backfire to "Well, we can't change them, so let's kill 'em!"
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  Re-read Animal Farm.

  by The Rebel in

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  i was one of many witness children, who studied this book in english literature class.. having re-read it as an adult it addressed so many issues i have with the organisation.

  including maniputive control, the re-writing of history etc etc.

  so many of the characters in the book, resembled characters i have known in the organisation.. boxer- loyalty without questioning.. squeler- a character who doesn't care about truth, and uses rhetoric of language to twist truth.. clover-who silently questions decisions, but stays loyal.. if your young, or old i would suggest reading this small book, by george orwell.

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  I didn't read Animal Farm until I was an adult and out of the bOrg for quite some time but I definitely saw the parallels. I think it was wise of my school to not allow such a subversive book into its Lit class and I can't even imagine a JW reading this book among friends and not getting a visit from the elders; any book by Orwell is like a ticking time bomb in an authoritarian regime! The character I related to the most was the cat. I think she saw clearly what was happening, but knew that no one would listen to her, so she made the best of the situation and then bailed before the witch trials began.

  Incidentally, I was watching a video yesterday on YouTube about Orwell's life. Since he was never recorded on film, they hired an actor to portray him and recite some of his recollections.

  https://youtu.be/s6txpumkY5I
  
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  I have a big nose...

  by The Rebel in

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  surprisingly whilst hating being born with this over large nose, women have fallen in love with my nose.

  so with regards to look and charm, what i hated about my physical attributes, many women have found attractive.

  anyway i just wanted to say what we find unattractive about ourselfs, doesn't necessarily mean others do.

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  My nose is so big that back in elementary school some kids would call me 'dirty jew'. That never made any sense to me, since every Jew I have met has been clean and fastidious. Maybe they were just calling me dirty, even though I wore clean clothes and bathed every day. Who knows?
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  If you had to choose

  by dothemath in

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  2. beliefs

  if you had to choose to belong to 1 religion, i was curious as to what any on the forum would pick.. i realize most here are likely atheist (i would have to say i'm agnostic), but if any would like to share their opinion, and maybe why?.

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  I would be a Satanist; specifically Anticosmic Satanism.

  Anticosmic Satanism is really Gnosticism given a Satanic makeover. Basically: the creator God (or Demiurge) is evil; he's a fallen deity who created this world to be a prison. We were once beings of pure, uncreated fire whom the Demiurge trapped into bodies of clay. Lucifer is an emissary of El Acher (the 'Other God'), an aspect of the divine that did NOT fall along with the creator God. He wants to liberate us from our clay prisons and eventually destroy God and his abberent creation so we can all return to acosmic freedom. There are some things about this form of Satanism that creep me out: they are very anti-life; they abhor procreation and worship death. But I guess that logically follows if you accept their premise.

  But it's all myth. There is no creator God to hate, nor is there some other God out there who is going to save us. Life is an accident and life's vicious circle will only end when the sun finally goes nova and burns earth's biosphere to ash.
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  JW's And Their Education Level

  by Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was thinking about this.... in my congregation, i was literally the only one with universitary education, out of a cong from around 110 people.... and we're very close to a very big university, which makes it even weirder.. on the other hand... sooo many here with their own business, mostly small cleaning businesses.

  cleaning windows, or cleaning somewhere else... painters.... all have jobs that do not require any education level, cos they never had a decent education.. how is the composition of the jw people/congs that you know about?.

  how many painters... cleaners... compared to people with jobs that require higher education?.

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  There was one man in my cong who repaired and built computers for a living; but he was a convert. He was a funny man since though he was very pious, he had no problem with pirating software. He even offered to give me some, but I said no.

  Everyone else cleaned, did construction or lived off welfare... though maybe that says more about the place I lived than the cong. There were no colleges, not even a little community college, and not many white collar jobs either.
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  If we are further away from perfection, why are we more moral?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as we know, witnesses teach that adam and eve were perfect and then committed the first act of sin and rebellion.. they in turn were cursed,and we all declined as their offspring.

  humans supposedly lived shorter and shorter lives, and became more imperfect and sinful.. the further away in time humans go then, they should be getting worse.

  so why is it then that as a society, humans have actually improved in so many ways?.

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  Why are we more moral ? Because we dont commit incest and havent done so for thousands of years

  LOL! Who's "we"? I've known plenty of people who have committed incest, are committing incest or very much want to commit it. I'd commit it myself if my female relatives weren't so ugly, old or dead.

  I know, I know... what you probably meant to say was most people would at least express disapproval of the act in public. But I ask you, how many of those hypocrites go home to mess around with their siblings, cousins, children and parents? And ditto on murder, rape and genocide.

  Could it be that we humans have only become more hypocritical and judgmental over the centuries? Hardly an improvement.
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  Watchtower Society Fails In Unconditional Love

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  was watching an episode of the young pope yesterday (really enjoyed the series), at at the end there it dealt with the theme of "unconditional love".

  it made me think of the love i have for people i know.. i looked up the wikipedia intro of unconditional love and it reads:.

  unconditional love is known as affection without any limitations or love without conditions.

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  Unconditional love is one of those platitudes that people give lots of lip service to, but secretly disdain. Love without any conditions is too easy to take for granted, which is why it is so rarely returned and those who profess it are held in such contempt by their beloved. It's really more like a chronic disease than an emotion.