my understanding* is that the un is supposed to be the wild beast of revelation.
the un only came into being after wwii, so what was the beast before the new light came about?
i can't see a speculative organisation like the wt not having an interpretation of the beast before the un came into being.
NotFormer - I recall the speculation by evangelicals about the EU. I wondered how they would spin the death blow and resurrection of the EU. None was offered.
JWs once felt strongly about the UN but now that the evidence is mainstream that WTC was an NGO, they pooh pooh the membership and now "it's not so bad after all".
The fact is that no matter what WTC does, the R&F loyalists apologize for them. WTC does not apologize because they have minions for that.
eric wilson's video is worth a view.. https://youtu.be/iil4fryuczk?si=f566n0tdqgpqc2ok.
Bravo Eric Wilson on those very illuminating reasons offered for the organizational changes made by WTC,
some time back i questioned about jw making money from doing relief work for disasters.
i found this story on reddit and also noted some of the replies.
it makes me wonder how many would have left their own jobs and paid their way, giving free labor and some supplying free materials if they had know what was going on behind the scenes.
Disaster relief was a sordid mess of dishonest motives. That contributed to my departure when I learned firsthand how horrible it all was.
did too many jehovah's witness kids get curious about wanting to go to a real college?.
they really don't give an explanation, it's like old light and new light, one reads the new light, and .
in the spirit of loyalty, the subject gets dropped, and there's no more talk about the old name again.. .
When WTC FINALLY paid Olin Moyle the $30,000 awarded bythe court, they paid in COINS.
The court dis not fine them but should have. Perhaps they were just fed up dealing with WTC slime.
They were and are a rotten bunch of fellas.
for a hundred years the slaves were kept from having the time and energy to question anything and associate anywhere where they might be exposed to alternative views by having to keep up the busy work of going door to door.
that avenue is drying up.
and policy is changing.. the wt needs new busy work to keep the sheep engaged without thinking.. the wt fancies itself as an up and coming movie studio.
Pepperheart2 - i am amazed that they still have magazines from those years. I can tell you with some certainty that they did not print surplus. The evidence suggests that the preaching work slowed down to such a crawl that they may have leftovers of those issues for the next century.
Biahi - I hope you are a female!
what does jump the shark mean?.
the phrase “jump the shark” is a term in pop culture that originated from the tv show “happy days” and is used to describe a decline in quality.
it refers to the moment when a tv show or other product has reached its peak and starts to decline in quality.
Disgruntled - it appears that the man in the photo may have eaten the shark. What do we call that attempt to save the show?
Sharkmageddon?
what does jump the shark mean?.
the phrase “jump the shark” is a term in pop culture that originated from the tv show “happy days” and is used to describe a decline in quality.
it refers to the moment when a tv show or other product has reached its peak and starts to decline in quality.
Elderberry - piggy-backing on your ark scenario, all the animals died due to starvation. That is what is happening in a spiritual sense within JWland. There is spiritual food outside their ark but the doors are locked.
JWland is a prison, not a fortress for the endangered to flee.
what does jump the shark mean?.
the phrase “jump the shark” is a term in pop culture that originated from the tv show “happy days” and is used to describe a decline in quality.
it refers to the moment when a tv show or other product has reached its peak and starts to decline in quality.
Stephane - maybe they could start reporting CSA even if there is only one witness so that the police can investigate.
Maybe they could stop the money grab of selling off assets without compensating the congs that paid for them.
Maybe they could encourage the discontinuation of shunning, (although in my case it gives me a break from my toxic family).
Maybe they could stop redacting their teachings online and be honest about what they taught that is/was false.
Maybe they could come clean about being an NGO in the UN (present included) and what that actually means. If it is harmless fun, they should explain it that way. Surely the faithful will understand.
Maybe they could be honest about their numbers (financial and membership) since both appear to be fabricated.
I have many more but my thumbs have blisters now and talking about them makes a lump come up in my throat (vomit).
my understanding* is that the un is supposed to be the wild beast of revelation.
the un only came into being after wwii, so what was the beast before the new light came about?
i can't see a speculative organisation like the wt not having an interpretation of the beast before the un came into being.
Vidiot - at Bethel, anyone who wrote in with ideas about Bible prophesy was pounded down like a nail sticking up out of the floor. Bethelites took this to heart and gradually stopped offering “suggestions”.
The culture did not not tolerate anyone who did not go along with the twisted ideas that were “approved” by the GB. If it did not come from Fred Franz, it was the wrong channel.
Fast forward to 2024 and it is little wonder that they have no fresh thinkers. That kind of crazy will get you labeled as an apostate faster than Tony Morris can empty a bottle of McCallans.
