why does it matter whether or not the end of the world ( (armageddon) is near?
if it was next week, next year, next decade, next century?
what is to be gained by knowing how close or far it is?
Sue, the whole point of convincing publishers that the end is about to come is to control behavior. Jesus prophesied that the end of the system would come but he NEVER used that teaching to leverage his followers for his own enrichment as Watchtower Corporation has done. There was no shunning for planning or pressure to give.
You clearly are in for the social benefits, whether you admit that or not.
Teachings matter. Watchtower is a bad player in the religion arena.
the new class action lawsuit against the watchtower for having covered up child sexual abuse will begin in court on may 13-14-15, 2024 in the province of ontario, canada.
it is not the same as in the province of quebec because the laws aren't the same.
i don’t have more details.
Vidiot - they ahave had financila problems for many years - they just didn't realize it. PM me and I will explain.
the new class action lawsuit against the watchtower for having covered up child sexual abuse will begin in court on may 13-14-15, 2024 in the province of ontario, canada.
it is not the same as in the province of quebec because the laws aren't the same.
i don’t have more details.
As for completing Ramapo in 2026 - they better get crackin'. :)
the new class action lawsuit against the watchtower for having covered up child sexual abuse will begin in court on may 13-14-15, 2024 in the province of ontario, canada.
it is not the same as in the province of quebec because the laws aren't the same.
i don’t have more details.
Bill - I PM'd you.
Joe1234cd - fully agree with your synopsis. I have said for years that loss of charity status, even in Europe would finish them off.
DOC - CSA cases have not been on the decrease since the Org is still full of abusers. JWism is a magnet for active perverts. The prison ministry was actively courting them to come in - that says it all. Now that states have extended statutes of limitations, the flood gates are wide open.
TonusOH - it is difficult to tell how much they spent vs received, but the constant pleas and reminders for donations are a sure indicator that times are lean. Settlements are always less than what might be awarded in court. WTC knows this and dangles "quick closure" in front of litigants. It is hard to resist, but I suspect that during negotiations, WTC suggests that they will otherwise 'fight to the death in court'. One case I am familiar with was particularly egregious. The plaintif was adamant that no settlement would be accepted - until they offered and the attorney said take before they file Chap 11. In disclosure, WTC revealed what I consider to be dangerously low funds given the many attacks they are facing. It certainly must be worse now. I am of the opinion that they have leveraged a large part of the real estate to banks for cash. That would explain why they had LDCs appraise all properties several years ago. They can do this now since they own them all. If they decide to stop making payments, the property is forfeited. This might be why so few KH's that are sold never had signs advertising for sale. Banks got them at a discount and flipped them for a little profit. Only the publishers lost.
the new class action lawsuit against the watchtower for having covered up child sexual abuse will begin in court on may 13-14-15, 2024 in the province of ontario, canada.
it is not the same as in the province of quebec because the laws aren't the same.
i don’t have more details.
Thanks Yalbmert99.
The resources of Legal must be near exhaustion. I have lost track of all the cases they are defending - some handled internally and some managed remotely by JW attorneys or non-JW paid attorneys which are very expensive and have potential risks of being aired in public (even with the exhaustive safeguards, people still like to share what they know).
All these cases require careful attention to manage and timely replies to avoid default judgements. I have not heard of any recent victories by WTC.
Then there are the negotiated out of court settlements which have grown in number. These require legal attention also for the non-disclosures and direct negotiations on $ amounts. The NDAs are really tight. I have not heard ANY actual settlement amounts - just hints and comments that WTC is bleeding profusely. One litigant was advised to settle before WTC collapses financially.
I have seen some comments (mostly on this forum) that WTC has limitless funds. NO ONE HAS UNLIMITED FUNDS. The last time I saw a disclusure of WTC net worth (liquid assets), it was barely enough to cover annual operating expenses. I am skeptical that those funds were all donated given the declining attendance. When publishers stop attending, they usually stop donating - even though WTC encourages them to donate online. By the time I faded, I stopped all donations - online and in-person. How about you?
The sale of assets may be the only thing keeping their nose above the water line. I suspect that many of the properties are leveraged for the cash they need to cover settlements, pay legal fees to hired attorneys, and feed the Bethelites.
Don't believe it? Whatever happened to Ramapo, the large Patterson renovation, the Geico flip/consolidation combo and other projects? Are these on hold or scuttled entirely? A silt fence is not evidence of intention to complete a project. Show me concrete being poured.
amazing new light in the latest morning worship by gary breaux.
the gb "never lie or deceive us.
we can have absolute trust in the governing body".. he then makes a very helpful point, so as to avoid being deceived and avoid lies.
The GB has been lying about their involvement with the UN for 3 DECADES.
They are strong supporters of the UN now and they use their relationship to hobnob with wealthier religions that they think they can emulate. As well, they do the same with the European counterpart.
https://youtu.be/uvdmjpmgxk8?si=qdvgimktegx4fepm.
the watchtower's nightmares have just began in france.
on april the 9th the french senate passed a new "anti-cult" law that will basically strengthen the hands of miviludes, the french agency, the official anti-cult agency that is cracking down on dangerous cults.
The U.S. guvmint is always looking for low-hanging fruit, and so are other countries that need money. JWs look like a money machine with an Easy Button - they always deliver. Psychologists proclaim that high control religions are ruining lives - the Easy Button on WTC begins to glow brightly.
Watchtower is clueless when it comes to ending the provocative behavior that results in fines, levies and lawsuits. They can't help but trip over their own feet..
the governing body are proud to announce... can you finish off the line for them - the more outrageous the better,, .
The U.S. Branch has taken advantage of Caesar's laws to prevent the evil slave from robbing donated funds by declaring Chapter 11.
i’ve noticed a pattern where things don’t go the way i expect them to go and/or whenever i realise there is a trend and, i mentally adjust for the idea that the trend will continue, the trend stops in its tracks.
so on that basis, and given many people, including myself, and active jws, have been asking ‘what changes will the governing body make next?’ perhaps the (disappointing) answer is: ‘nothing much for a while to come’.
maybe they’ve made the changes they want for now, and will wait a while and see how it’s received.
During my time at the Bible House, WTC occasionally revisited the 5 year plan but I never heard any mention of a 10 year plan. If it existed, it was vague and lacked specifics. Most Fortune 50’s have 5 year plans but they tweak them constantly since business landscapes change rapidly.
I don’t actually believe WTC has a 10 year plan. Most of the decision makers don’t have a 10 day plan.
i’ve noticed a pattern where things don’t go the way i expect them to go and/or whenever i realise there is a trend and, i mentally adjust for the idea that the trend will continue, the trend stops in its tracks.
so on that basis, and given many people, including myself, and active jws, have been asking ‘what changes will the governing body make next?’ perhaps the (disappointing) answer is: ‘nothing much for a while to come’.
maybe they’ve made the changes they want for now, and will wait a while and see how it’s received.
Vidiot - my source was very disturbed that God was not coming to their rescue. He/her/them saw money as an indication of divine favor. It perplexed him/her/them to see it disappearing so rapidly.
LHG - I hit dislike by accident with my gorilla thumbs. Sorry!
