Posts by ThomasMore

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Who do you think leaked the Trump documents location to the FBI?

by GabeAthouse in

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friends

was it melania?

don jr?

or gary busey's son, eric trump?.

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Is there anyone here who can tell us if Adam Schiff is a good kisser? I suspect there is - time to come clean!

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How far do we get away from 1914

by PimoElder in

how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

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607 BCE vs 587 BCE

Using WTC interpretation, even the 587 BCE date results in a generation that is now 88+ years old. The gymnastics required to justify a generation as 88 years would make Olga Corbett proud.

The first step on the road to recovery is the hardest because it requires a change of direction.

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What Do You Like About Biden's Build Back Better Agenda & the Democrat's Build Back Better Act?

by Disillusioned JW in

what do you like about biden's build back better agenda & the democrat's build back better act?

is it liberal and progressive enough for you or do you wish it would go further?

https://www.vox.com/22711083/biden-reconciliation-build-back-better-polls-infrastructure has some comments about it.

They understand that necessary compromises to appease special interst groups will dilute their most noble intentions. They also know that they will be scruitinized under a microscope and fabrications will be published to discredit them. As a result, the country gets men/women who use their office as a means to enrich themselves at taxpayer expense. Insider trading in congress is illegal but still occurs. DOJ looks the other way depending on the party affiliation. Market confidence is evaporating like spit on a hot sidewalk. National debt is approximately $30 trillion - an amount that cannot be paid back in anyones lifetime. Under the table deals with China by the family members of office holders abound. Meanwhile inflation soars while the administration says it is 0%. Hundreds of thousand of immigrants cross the border and get immediate free reign of the country while those who apply legally stand in line. Bills are mis-labeled as 'Inflation fighting' when they actually stoke more inflation. No bail policies encourage criminals to repeat offend many times a day. Police resign in record numbers. What is the answer? Why is all this happening?

Great men/women don't run for office.

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My Prediction Regarding New Space Telescope That Will See Back to 100 Million Years From the Big Bang

by Sea Breeze in

a new space telescope launched a few days age that will supposedly be able to see to within 100 million years of the big bang.

wow... only 100 million years from the big bang.

that is pretty early given the 12 billion year age of the universe assigned by scholars who adhere to naturalism.

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If the scientists who worked on the telescope had been JWs, they would have been shunned for going to University for their respective fields of endeavor. Thankfully, they were men and women of science and we now have a glimpse into the origin of the galaxies that we did not have formerly. Now WTC will try to capitalize on the findings and give praise to the creator. If any of those scientists had been JWs, they would have been frowned upon for pursuing higher education, and seeking information that might have challenged the very narrative of creation that WTC wants everyone to believe.

Sound like a circle of nuttiness? It is. Buy a fruitcake this coming holiday season and marvel at the similarity with WTC.

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Elders won't tell you who have falsely accused you

by enoughisenough in

having been a victim of this practice twice, i thought i would see if others had the same experience.

on one occassion, i was before the elders being told i was drunk on a certain day at a certain time.

( this was only brought up because when i was pushing for a meeting because of elder mr x adultery , i was threatened somethings would be brought out about me if i persued the meeting.

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I knew an elderly sister whose car was placed in the shop for repairs. Her neighborhood was sketchy so she asked another elderly male, non-JW to park his car at her house as she hoped it would deter burglars. Other sisters saw the car and turned her in. A few days later, she was called before a JC and charged with fornication. She explained. She was DF'd nevertheless. She appealed. The appeals committee interviewed the JC and learned that they hated her. Yhey were not sorry for the miscarriage of justice. The DFing was overturned. They did not apologize. She was amazed to learn how much they hated her.

In JW land, justice is not a given. Anyone expecting it is naive beyond what is healthy. WTC does not encourage justice since they don't practice it at Bethel.

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Booster shots required for Bethelites and special full time servants?

by PimoElder in

it’s a shame the gov body did a big u turn on vaccines .

if they continue with the rule that only fully vaxed can go back to the hall then i could have stayed on zoom.

but the term fully vaxed is a moving target, if it’s been like six months since your last shot you are just the same as those of us who are unvaxed .

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When vaccinations started during the Rutherford Administration, WTC had the vilest criticism for the effort and compared it to cannabalism and other unimaginable horrors. Fast forward to 2022 and their position is 180 degrees. Along with other doctrinal matters, they just cannot decide what their position is. Want to be lead by the blind? Join Watchtower.

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All KH Bank accounts to close and all received contributions sent directly to the WT

by James Jack in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-c6yshtkqu.

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Fulano, you are absolutely correct. That's why I think it is unlikely. Perhaps they have multiple haircuts in store for the "friends". Whatever the case, I think this is a prelude to an oganizational change.

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All KH Bank accounts to close and all received contributions sent directly to the WT

by James Jack in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-c6yshtkqu.

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Hoser, once again we have a 20/20 rear view of WTC’s overestimation of their worth. At Bethel, before they transitioned to the donation arrangement, they discussed online distribution of literature for free but key men said that they could not give it away free. When reminded that they “received free” they looked shocked, as if it was understood that they must be paid for the food they would distribute. That attitude has been their undoing. They still feel that the Pubs OWE them a living.

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All KH Bank accounts to close and all received contributions sent directly to the WT

by James Jack in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-c6yshtkqu.

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Actually the accounts have become much simpler in recent years. The accounts servant could do it with half his brain tied behind his back. The Branch disallowed the investing of cong funds in 3rd party investments and took all the “extra” money that congs had except for a few months of expenses. This is a money grab, straight up and simple.

It should net the Branch about $3-4k per cong. As for doing the cong a favor by removing that burden, that is nonsense. Follow the money and the implications for a possible chapter 11 in the relatively near future. WTC is in dire straights financially.

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All KH Bank accounts to close and all received contributions sent directly to the WT

by James Jack in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-c6yshtkqu.

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There don't seem to be enough details at this time (probably intentional on WTC's part) as they may be testing the waters to see how much pushback they get. It stands to reason that they will implement since this was initially leaked pre-pandemic but not implemented (as I recall).

There are a few scenarios as to how they might transfer funds received from the cong:

1. The accounts servants takes the funds to a bank and gets a certified check which then gets mailed or possibly direct deposited using a mobile app similar to how checks are now deposited remotely using a mobile app. Take a pic, put in the amount and hit send. This would not work with a personal account since the naive publisher would get audited and even accused of money-laundering. Banks are on the lookout for these types of money transfers. I knew a low IQ accounts servant who did just that and he experienced much pain as result.

2. WTC sets up an account at a bank local to each congregation and the Accounts servant deposits the check and cash directly into the WTC account.This is unlikely and problematic.

3. WTC stops accepting cash and checks at the KH altogether. Pubs must make donations online. Hmm...sounds like this is a already a problem as pubs are not donating online enough as it is. So, unlikely to happen.

There may be other options but I can't think of any at the moment. I welcome your creative solutions to WTC's self-created dilemma.

Meanwhile, Here are some likely consequences for the radical change in the money-grabbing plan:

1. BOE's realize that WTC is not going to pay for toilet paper, cleaning supplies and other costly incidentals that add up over time. They suspect that WTC will be too tight-fisted to even pay the electric and water bill so they begin to stop donating altogether. The cash dries up. CO's berate the cong to no avail. WTC sells the KH due to lack of donations and the Pubs are forced to travel to another KH until those congs also wise up and stop donating. The selloff accelerates and WTC declares chapter 11. Disentegration follows rapidly and millions are freed. Unlikely but I thought it was a possibility so I listed it.

2. Watchtower gets investigated for operating as a bank and criminal prosecutions follow. Many cry persecution but disentegration follows and millions are freed. Ulikely also but worth considering.

3. Congs do their darn best to follow the onerous yoke WTC places on them but it unravels as WTC fails to pay the utilities, Pubs get stuck with incidental purchases and bitterness grows. WTC lays off the majority of it's "paid" (stipend) workforce and attendance plummets. Donations plummet. The ex-JW community grows. WTC closes the doors and key men relocate to Argentina as KHs get sold off. This is the most likely scenario but it could play out over years, so slowly that many are unaware that they are ending. If you have watched paint dry, it takes time.

4. WTC uses this as a pilot program and decides that it just won't work. They scrap the plan altogether and wratchet up the pressure on the Pubs to give more of their money. They readjust teachings like the sheep and goats understanding to make Pubs believe that they are being judged now for their actions. (Oh wait, they already did that - nevermind). Depression among Pubs grows and more leave for greener pastures. WTC experinces more shrinkage than George Costanza in an ice bath. Eventually they become a marginal reference in "Religions that Used To Be". The GB have themselves cryogenically frozen but court orders are issued for them to be thawed and the funds are liquidated to lawyers who form a class action against the Corporation(s). This is a dream scenario and probably likely except for the cryogenic part that I threw in for fun.

5. Pubs band together, surround Warwick, breach the fence and occupy the complex until police intervene. The GB are eventually lead away in handcuffs and millions are freed. Well,I can dream can't I?

Think you can do better? Take a crack at it. Just remember that WTC has more lives than Thomasina. Just when you think they are cornered, they pull a 6 ft Harvey out of their pocket and start another chapter of misery. Trust me, I have been in the room...