Posts by ThomasMore

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Keep telling yourself that!

by Lost in the fog in

in the latest copy of the elders textbook someone kindly made available to us on this website, i see that "independently organized meetings for spiritual feeding" are still not allowed.

no wonder because independent research would let the scales fall from the eyes.. the gb still insisting that they are guided by the (always lower case) holy spirit and the bible!!

not that the rank and file members need the bible or holy spirit themselves because they are fed through meetings, conventions, assemblies, jw broadcasting and the publications.

WTC will not tolerate competition or any forum that could challenge their flimsy teachings. I saw this play out many times and each time, good-hearted people with sincere intentions were counseled to discontinue associating with others in the cong for fear that it could be viewed as apostasy. It was in direct opposition to Jesus words that where 2 or more were gathered in his name, he would support the effort by beign there (in a sense).

WTC is the modern day religious leaders who do not lead the people to salvation and will not tolerate any who seek it apart from them.

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Anyone know of specific subliminal pictures?

by cognac in

the only one i know about is the big jesus in the revelation book.. know of any specific other ones?

i want to show hubby....

ThomasMore

That one was intentional and raised a stir at the Bible House. Trust me on this one.

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Striving for more

by punkofnice in

i hate my life!

i have to say it, but i do.. i have a sneaking suspicion that because i was raised in the dangerous jehovah borgness cult, that this is the reason.

i was told if god didn't watch me masturbating or smoking, then he'd let me live forever in perfect conditions.. i left the borg and as a result my jw wife left me and re-married another gung ho jobo.

ThomasMore

Punk, I am not sure how to measure happiness but I have no problem getting precise measurements on sadness. You have had some bad experiences and even though you deserve to be bitter or depressed or both, I hope you can find some meaning in the time you have left above ground. I won't recommend anything other than a good dog who keeps you grounded. Mine reminds me that someone depends on me and I am needed. I just can't let him down, and he never stops treating me like I am significant to his happiness.

BTW - I enjoy your sharp-witted posts. At least keep me amused.

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Known Sex Offender, yet unanimously einstated in 2011! Typical.

by Lost in the fog in

i've copied and pasted this entire newspaper article from yesterday in full as just using the link hits a paywall.... berks judge lowers bail for former berks man accused of molesting boys in '90s.. steven henshaw, reading eagle, pa.. thu, december 8, 2022 at 4:59 am·4 min read.

dec. 7—a berks county judge on wednesday halved the $1.5 million bail amount that had been set for a georgia man while he awaits recently filed charges that he sexually assaulted two boys in the 1990s while living in the hamburg area.. jesse j. hill, 52, remained in the county jail in lieu of $750,000 cash bail to await a preliminary hearing following wednesday's bail hearing before judge patrick t. barrett.

the defendant followed the hearing from a cellblock in the basement of the courthouse via closed-circuit video.. state attorney general josh shapiro's office alleges that hill leveraged his family's trusted name within their jehovah's witnesses religious community to prey on boys as young as 9 during the 1990s, plying his victims with trips to the mall and r-rated movies, alcohol, marijuana and candy, according to the charges.. hill's lawyer, jay nigrini, petitioned the court for bail modification, arguing that hill's substantial local ties — he has resided in berks nearly all of his life — puts him at extremely low risk of fleeing prosecution.

ThomasMore

I have never seen WTC demonstrate genuine concern for victims. This case proves beyond a shadow of doubt that they did not consider the potential victims of Hill while he was DF'd and reinstated later. It is appalling to see how they fight to shield the deeds of abusers to authorities and others who end up within arms-reach.

Hill was a "known child molester" (he confessed to a Judicial Committee) who was DF'd and later reinstated. While reinstatement usually occurs without the pre-approval of WTC, there is little doubt that the local congregation sought the approval of WTC (as well as the original Judicial Committee) and the Circuit Overseer due to the type of sin he was DF'd for. It is likely that they asked for direction from Legal and Service before reinstating.

Had he stolen something from Watchtower or vandalized a KH, it is unlikely that he would have ever been welcomed back. Draw your own obvious conclusions as to why and you will probably be right.

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Watchtower looses Norwegian Appeal

by Diogenesister in

watchtower has just lost its appeal in the norwegian courts over the withdrawal of the funding it receives from the government as an officially recognised religion.

the initial decision will now stand due to what the court termed 'exclusionary practices' which includes the witnesses barbaric practice of shunning minors, even by family members in their own homes.

the ministry of children and families have decided they are now no longer eligible for the state grant of 16 million norwegian kroner given to officially recognised religions.. the following is a statement has been issued, i have summarised if it isn't readable: .

ThomasMore

Fisherman:

And Norway is a legitimate government that gets to decide who is helping the citizenry and who is hurting it. Your reasoning isn't swaying me. Please don't count time for a reply - "Not interested".

Have a nice day my friend!

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So after many years I’m back for a bit

by truthsetsonefree in

i have been out for a long time now and have kept busy.

but tonight my jw mom asked me what is happening in norway.

so i researched and wow!

ThomasMore

"It's a lost for watchtower how ever this goes. Cause they been telling for decades members that everything is run by donations. That they are not part of the world. Now it's coming out they been getting government grants for year's, will same time begging for donations."

All the while pronouncing doom for the governments as being part of the wild beast - "soon to be destroyed". Hmmmmmm. How do you spell hypocrite?

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Tony & JW made it to Norweigian media - even a pic of "dat broadcast"

by Festus in

well well am3 made it to norweigian media with hsi rant about religouse persecution.. hereis the link.. share your thoughts.. ble nektet statstøtte: jehovas vitner vurderer juridiske skritt – vårt land (vl.no) .

ThomasMore

Got to go with Vidiot on this one. They know they are persona non grata and there is no changing it. Russia is a lost cause, most European countries have their number and won't take being lied to anymore. Social media has exposed their twisted perversions of morality and corruption. Ex-JWs are speaking out and suing - WTC is settling because they know they can't win in most couirts. All the advertorials they can buy won't change the public's general perception of them now. In their case, the grave they dug may be for themselves.

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Los Angeles Times: California braces for deluge of child-sex-assault lawsuits under new law

by AndersonsInfo in

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-10-20/california-child-sex-assault-lawsuits-new-law.

san diego — matt smyth’s secret was revealed in his senior year of high school with a knock on the front door of his family’s fallbrook, calif., home.. two plainclothes sheriff’s detectives were investigating reports that smyth’s former assistant scoutmaster — the one who’d driven kids to boy scout meetings, chaperoned camp-outs and hosted fishing outings on his bucolic property — had molested several boys.. to the shock of his parents, smyth shared that he’d been a victim, too.

but the bombshell stayed close to home for decades.

ThomasMore

Barbara Anderson is correct when she said that WTC searched for scriptures to support their beliefs. In fact, every whim they ever had was later supported by a cherry-picked verse from the scriptures.

Bethel was a political cesspool, a man-made concoction designed to control people while elevating a small group of under-qualified religionists who were very insecure, but also the most arrogant hypocrites that anyone could ever meet. Most were horrible human beings, but a few were naive enough to support the organization despite being sincere and humble. For those poor souls, I offer my best wishes that they will not be held accountable for all the damage WTC has done to so many people and families. Individuals can be forgiven but corporations cannot.

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How things are in JW land right now?

by Hellothere in

any news about how going back to kingdom halls and door to door ministry going right now?

are there many people at meetings and meetings before going out in service as congregation?.

ThomasMore

LHG sees the Zoom effort for what is is. WTC said it was a means to distribute spiritual food when they started using it, but it became yet another means of control. It just wasn’t enough to distribute food when an opportunity to control the sheep is there.

i witnessed the control aspect play out over my decades in the org, and I concluded that they were not spiritual and not interested in spiritual things.

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Bill & Joan Cetnar Expose Watchtower Claims

by Sea Breeze in

in this classic interview with john ankerberg, bill and joan cetnar expose many outlandish watchtower claims.

it is a major part of ex-jw history.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcwrmtfdeji&t=709s&ab_channel=mr.alithea .

ThomasMore

Add them to the long list of families that were divided by JWs.