Posts by ThomasMore

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Has The Interpretation of the Beast Changed?

by NotFormer in

my understanding* is that the un is supposed to be the wild beast of revelation.

the un only came into being after wwii, so what was the beast before the new light came about?

i can't see a speculative organisation like the wt not having an interpretation of the beast before the un came into being.

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Blondie, I actually agree with the interpretation by WTC on the League and the UN.

What I find hypocritical is their membership in the UN as an NGO as well as their membership in the European counterpart.

WTC also defines the “Man of Lawlessness” as the clergy of Christendom. Once again I happen to think they are correct. However, why would they join Jimmy Swaggert in court when he was being prosecuted as “friends of Jimmy Swaggart”.

Another example is cozying up to Hitler by Rutherford, being rebuffed, then using the rank ‘n file to blast Hitler, triggering an enormous wave of persecution by the Nazis that resulted in lives lost, all property confiscated, and imprisonment.

JWs repeatedly take the wrong side of an issue resulting in the need to coverup and redact their history.

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JW profit from disasters

by enoughisenough in

some time back i questioned about jw making money from doing relief work for disasters.

i found this story on reddit and also noted some of the replies.

it makes me wonder how many would have left their own jobs and paid their way, giving free labor and some supplying free materials if they had know what was going on behind the scenes.

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Magnum, I recall a well known charity taking donated funds after 9/11 and purchasing a new computer system. The media excoriated them even though no laws had been broken. They needed a new system and felt justified, but as a result, donations dropped considerably in the following years.

Contributors felt that the funds should have benefitted persons directly affected by the terror attacks.

WTC started asking contributors not to stipulate how funds were to be spent. They knew that money would be directed to CSA settlements, legal defense fees and other costs that the rank n’ file would be disturbed over.

In many disasters, WTC collected materials that were sold off, and then took all the proceeds unceremoniously. In some instances, nothing was used to address the disaster - nothing.

It may be legal but nothing about what WTC dies is ethical.

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Conversation with old friend

by LongHairGal in

i recently had a conversation with an old acquaintance from the congregation i used to attend.

we talked about the recent changes in the 2023 annual meeting.

i especially pointed out the one about getting rid of hourly reporting on monthly time slips.

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LHG - It takes a lot to stand up against the pressure that some (in virtually every congregation) apply to females who decide to get the training they need to care for themselves financially. You are an inspiration!!

Recently i have heard of sisters getting professional degrees - and taking a lot of guff for it still. But, like you, they realized that no one was going to give them a handout. This trend seems to be more prevalent among sisters than brothers.

Social Security benefits will likely be reduced by 2034 and many will find their sole source of income to be less than formerly when it still was insufficient. It makes me very sad to see JWs who will be affected even more severely in the future than they already are.

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When The 'Tower Is Mentioned In A Will

by NotFormer in

i assume someone from wt attends the reading of the will.

an elder, a co, some especially selected person from the branch under whose purview this sort of thing is maintained?.

what is the procedure?.

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I recall some local elders being asked to attend when a reading of a will was stipulated. A few large estates left WTC sizeable amounts, but no one from the Branch was invited. The deceased only knew local elders who maintained a relationship with them through their final years.

I recall one state left to the congregation. Soon, the Branch took that in the great money grab a few years ago.

I have specifically stipulated that none of my estate should go to WTC or any JWs who might pass money onto WTC. They would have to sign a statement vowing not to leave WTC anything also so that no comingled money could end up in WTC;s account.

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Has The Interpretation of the Beast Changed?

by NotFormer in

my understanding* is that the un is supposed to be the wild beast of revelation.

the un only came into being after wwii, so what was the beast before the new light came about?

i can't see a speculative organisation like the wt not having an interpretation of the beast before the un came into being.

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NotFormer - I recall the speculation by evangelicals about the EU. I wondered how they would spin the death blow and resurrection of the EU. None was offered.

JWs once felt strongly about the UN but now that the evidence is mainstream that WTC was an NGO, they pooh pooh the membership and now "it's not so bad after all".

The fact is that no matter what WTC does, the R&F loyalists apologize for them. WTC does not apologize because they have minions for that.

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The Reason Behind Recent Watchtower Changes

by Vanderhoven7 in

eric wilson's video is worth a view.. https://youtu.be/iil4fryuczk?si=f566n0tdqgpqc2ok.

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Bravo Eric Wilson on those very illuminating reasons offered for the organizational changes made by WTC,

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JW profit from disasters

by enoughisenough in

some time back i questioned about jw making money from doing relief work for disasters.

i found this story on reddit and also noted some of the replies.

it makes me wonder how many would have left their own jobs and paid their way, giving free labor and some supplying free materials if they had know what was going on behind the scenes.

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Disaster relief was a sordid mess of dishonest motives. That contributed to my departure when I learned firsthand how horrible it all was.

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Why the name change from Watchtower Bible College of Gilead to Watchtower Bible School of Gilead?

by was a new boy in

did too many jehovah's witness kids get curious about wanting to go to a real college?.

they really don't give an explanation, it's like old light and new light, one reads the new light, and .

in the spirit of loyalty, the subject gets dropped, and there's no more talk about the old name again.. .

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When WTC FINALLY paid Olin Moyle the $30,000 awarded bythe court, they paid in COINS.

The court dis not fine them but should have. Perhaps they were just fed up dealing with WTC slime.

They were and are a rotten bunch of fellas.

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The New Busy Work

by NotFormer in

for a hundred years the slaves were kept from having the time and energy to question anything and associate anywhere where they might be exposed to alternative views by having to keep up the busy work of going door to door.

that avenue is drying up.

and policy is changing.. the wt needs new busy work to keep the sheep engaged without thinking.. the wt fancies itself as an up and coming movie studio.

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Pepperheart2 - i am amazed that they still have magazines from those years. I can tell you with some certainty that they did not print surplus. The evidence suggests that the preaching work slowed down to such a crawl that they may have leftovers of those issues for the next century.

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Elder’s House is on the Market….let’s peek into his bedroom

by Tahoe in

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Biahi - I hope you are a female!