I knew a fella who was never religious. One day he was in an accident and lost 3/4 of his brain. When he woke up, he had a strong craving to become a JW. Imagine that!
Maybe softening/apologizing would work? I’m not one to criticize 😎
imagine if all the governing body resigned and a new set of brothers came in and said we are very very sorry for all those who have been disfellowshipped and disassociated over the years.
we know many mistakes have been made.
we are really genuinely sorry to all those who have been hurt and especially those who have died and been hurt by these mistakes.
I knew a fella who was never religious. One day he was in an accident and lost 3/4 of his brain. When he woke up, he had a strong craving to become a JW. Imagine that!
Maybe softening/apologizing would work? I’m not one to criticize 😎
i been reading quite a few experiences on reddit lately, and their seems to be a common theme coming up….
…dialed-up-to-eleven shunning of xjws by their witness relatives.. it reminds me of back in the day, listening to some of the over-the-top vitriol displayed by hard-core loyalists when the topic of evolution or apostates came up….
…i was gobsmacked when i finally realized these guys weren’t offended and indignant because they thought it was lies….
Simon - the less I talk to them - the more they shun me.
I have come to understand that they know I think they are no longer relevant, as well as their teachings.
What they fail to understand is that shunning me is a gift.🎁
according to watchtower, only anointed christians existed between the first and 20th centuries.
the great crowd of other sheep only began forming after the 20th century started.. how do they support this conclusion?
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Vanderhoven - you are making too much sense to be right.
Let’s simplify this: The number of genuine anointed ones between Pentecost 33 CE and 1919 is 144,000 minus the number of genuine anointed JWs who turned in time slips between 1919 and the end of this wicked system which is coming very very very very soon now.
Also, JWs don’t have to judge as long as they can add and subtract.
I hope that helps. It’s much easier when you see things through the Rosie colored glasses of a JW.
hi does any body know if the watchtower are printing any new awakes etc as these past 8 months or so i have had magazines from four different carts from four different towns 100s of miles apart and the most recent magazines that they all had were from 2021..
At the rate they are reducing, soon the WTC press will be a $149 Epson Desktop Inkjet printer.
article.
https://saysorry.org/2024/02/19/jehovahs-witnesses-and-the-australian-national-redress-scheme/.
video.
Has WTC paid into the scheme for victims? Or are they still obfuscating?
article.
https://saysorry.org/2024/02/19/jehovahs-witnesses-and-the-australian-national-redress-scheme/.
video.
Ted was on the list. He had a lifelong hatred for another GB member who was responsible for kicking him out of the Australian branch many years prior for his transgression.
Their animosity for one another was thick whenever they were together in public as I recall. I learned why later. Surprisingly many others knew.
Now we even know what Ted did. It just proves that Bethel can never keep a secret forever, except from the police.
i've seen people say something along the lines that the authorities would like to/have been trying to subpoena (members of) the gb (in csa cases).
my question is: why don't they?
if the gb are issuing orders to cover up evidence in csa cases, and otherwise interfere in justice being served in those cases, then they are accessories before (and after) the fact, and theoretically can be arrested and charged as such.
Notformer - so far the legal system has been reticent to take on WTC over CSA interference.
The current climate could change but it has to be a grass roots movement, not a flash in the pan “woke” moment. Protecting children requires fortitude that the current state of politics lacks entirely.
the pennsylvania supreme court memorandum opinion that i posted on this discussion board yesterday was confusing enough for me to ask attorney irwin zalkin to explain the issues.
he promptly replied and gave me permission to post here the following important information that he provided.. "the pennsylvania supreme court memorandum opinion raises the question of whether jehovah’s witnesses (“jw’s”) elders, who are volunteer clergy, fall under an exception to the mandatory reporting law of the state of pennsylvania.
jw’s members of the ivy hill congregation of jw’s sued the pa department of human services (dhs) and asked the court to issue a judgment that as a matter of law makes jw’s elders exempt from pa’s mandatory reporting of known or suspected child abuse, including child sexual abuse.
CSA is not like any other sin/crime.
WTC policy implies that they are authorized and are qualified to asses the danger that a pedophile is to the community.
Example: I could purchase an official looking police badge, but I would be in trouble if I misrepresented myself as an officer in the community. If I “arrested a person” and took them back to a holding cell in my home, I would be compounding the impersonation.
Recently some Chinese agents in California did as much in a community. They were shut down when discovered.
WTC and local elders are not authorized to investigate crimes of CSA, and certainly are overstepping when they decide that a perpetrator represents no threat to others in the community. That right is reserved for law enforcement and the courts. There are no exceptions.
In effect, WTC and local elders are running a shadow organization of law enforcement… and doing a terrible job.
https://www.jwupdates.com/post/u-n-infomercial-backfires.
the following appeared on jw news section earlier on in january:.
on december 15, 2023, an ongoing conflict between two armed factions in sudan’s capital, khartoum, spread to the country’s second-largest city, wad madani.
JW attempts at disaster relief solidify as soon a scheme for benefiting financially is concocted. I saw this firsthand - it is indisputable.
WTC is an opportunistic parasite that always shows up after a tragedy occurs. Since they rejoined the UN, they are sucking the teat as often as possible.
(revelation 17:5) “babylon the great, the mother of the prostitutes (plural!
) and of the disgusting things of the earth.”.
btg is spotlighted as being the principal "disgusting thing" which affects christians & christianity, with other lesser "prostitutes" in the background... (revelation 18:4) “get out of her, my people, (christians) if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues.".
Babylon the Great is clearly Las Vegas!
Everyone knows that! It is a mystery because everything that happens there stays there. John said to get out of her because eventually you will lose all your money and your morals.
I hope this was helpful.