Jason, I am waiting for your reply.
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The Watchtower means Salvation, for Jason[dunscot]
by Scorpion injason,.
the watchtower claims it is the only means of salvation.
it also in effect denies the ransom of christ by belittling it as of no real importance.
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I live in California, about 20 miles North of the capitol, Sacramento.
Woodland is the name of the city.
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Do you want the real truth or not?
by Jason inon this website there seems to be so many lies and so little actual truth.
is this supposed to be a place to get answers or confuse the hell out of truth seekers?
well, for you seekers out there, if you find the truth on this site it'll be a major fluke.
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"Jesus Christ further deserves honor because he is Jehovah's chief angel, or archangel." The Watchtower 2/1/1991,p. 17
"God did not send some angel to rescue mankind. He made the supreme sacrifice of sending his only-begotten Son... WT 2/15/1991. p.14
Is Christ an angel or isn't he???
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Do you want the real truth or not?
by Jason inon this website there seems to be so many lies and so little actual truth.
is this supposed to be a place to get answers or confuse the hell out of truth seekers?
well, for you seekers out there, if you find the truth on this site it'll be a major fluke.
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The men of Sodom [will] be resurrected. WT 7/1879,p.8
The men of Sodom [will not] be resurrected. WT 6/1/1952,p.338
..will.. WT 8/1/1965 p.479
..will not.. WT 6/1/1988, p.31
..will.. LIVE FOREVER, early editions, p.179
..will not.. LIVE FOREVER. later editions, p. 179
..will.. INSIGHT, Vol. 2, p. 95 (1988)
..will not.. REVELATION, p.273 (1988)
Both INSIGHT and REVELATION books were released during the summer conventions of Jehovah's Witnesses on the same year and contradict each other.
Jason, this is just a start of the hundreds of inconsistencies within the pages of the WT and books written by the Society.
I agree with you about evolution, I do not believe it to be fact, but mostly theory. I do believe in adaptation.
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Thanks BugEye, that was fun to read. Maybe someday we can actually meet and have a few beers.
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The Watchtower means Salvation, for Jason[dunscot]
by Scorpion injason,.
the watchtower claims it is the only means of salvation.
it also in effect denies the ransom of christ by belittling it as of no real importance.
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Jason,
The Watchtower claims it is the only means of salvation. It also in effect denies the Ransom of Christ by belittling it as of no real importance. What is your take on these qoutes and why do they substitute themselves as mediator instead of Christ?
THEY COMPASSIONATLY SHEPHERD THE LITTLE FLOCK
WT 9/15/1993 page 22
But if we were to draw away from Jehovah's organization, there would be no place else to go for salvation and true joy. (Compare John 6:66-69)STAY AWAKE AND KEEP YOUR SENSES
WT 11/15/1981 page 21
And while now the witness yet includes the invitation to come to Jehovah's organization for salvation, the time no doubt will come when the message takes on a harder tone, like a great war cry.WHAT BIRTH OF THE NATION HAS MEANT FOR MANKIND
WT 7/1/1982 page 25
Although meriting due consideration in the inspired Bible, the salvation of the human race from sin and death and bondage to Satan the Devil and his organization is not the most important thing, the most important doctrine of the Holy Bible[my comments on the above. Anti ransom or what? The sacrifice of Jesus merits consideration BUT it is not of real importance???]
NOWHERE ELSE TO GO
WT 11/15/1992 page21
We will be impelled to serve Jehovah loyally with his organization if we remember that there is nowhere else to go for life eternal. When Jesus' statements caused 'many disciples to go off to the things behind, he asked his apostles: "You do not want to go also, do you?" Peter replied: "Lord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life; and we have believed and come to know that you are the Holy One of God."-John 6:66-69SERVE JEHOVAH LOYALLY
Our hearts should impel us to cooperate with Jehovah's organization because we know that it alone is directed by his spirit and is making known his name and purposes. WT 11/15/1992 page 21HELP ME OUT WHERE I NEED FAITH!
wt 9/15/1991 PAGE 17
To ensure their salvation, Noah and his family neede to exercise faith. This meant following instructions and the leadings of God's holy spirit. During the great tribulation, it will be just as imperative that we follow the leadings of the holy spirit and obey Jehovah's instructions through his organization.FROM OUR READERS
8/22/1984 PAGE 22
The Catholic Church occupies a very significant position in the world and claims to be the way of salvation for hundreds of millions of people. Any organization that assumes that position should be willing to submit to scrutiny and criticism. All who criticize have the obligation to be tuthful in presenting the facts and fair and objective in assessing such. In both respects we try to live up to that obligation.-ED.This qoute I find ironic. Jehovah's organization' will not allow itself to be scrutinized by it's members. If they do so, then they are reprimanded. All others that do so are labled apostates or opposers.
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Do you want the real truth or not?
by Jason inon this website there seems to be so many lies and so little actual truth.
is this supposed to be a place to get answers or confuse the hell out of truth seekers?
well, for you seekers out there, if you find the truth on this site it'll be a major fluke.
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Jason,
You are the one who mentioned lies on this forum and did not point out anything specific in your post.
No, I am not saying that everything said on this site is true, just like everything printed in the pages of the WT and AWAKE over the years has come very short of being true.
Just give me a few examples of what lies you have seen on this forum and then we can have something to go with. You never know, I might even agree with you.
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Do you want the real truth or not?
by Jason inon this website there seems to be so many lies and so little actual truth.
is this supposed to be a place to get answers or confuse the hell out of truth seekers?
well, for you seekers out there, if you find the truth on this site it'll be a major fluke.
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Jason,
What kind of lies are you refering too? Please let us know.
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I have dealt with several Bible Students and JWs on the net. One thing a person cannot do over the net is read a persons body language and actually know at times what they mean when they say it. Some conversations or replies can get confused to mean something that was not meant, and in the process taken the wrong way. With the JWs and the BS, they usually take any critical questioning or remarks as an attack against their belief system whether it was meant that way or not. I hope those of us that were in that same boat learned something from that way of thinking.
Yes, I could have misunderstood what Bugeye said in his first reply, but I did not. This does not mean that I am not guilty of taking post the wrong way at times.
Sometimes I read posts not only on this forum, but also other forums I post on and wait an hour or maybe a day before I reply. The reason is so that something like this does not happen.
Take care Dana and thank you for your response.
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Stafford and Furuli
by dunsscot ini hear that stafford and furuli are coming out with new books.
one will deal with the gentile times, and the other will discuss jws via three "dissertations.
" i immensely look forward to these works.. .
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If you want to see the books that Stafford & Furuli have on line, go to http://www.elihubooks.com/
I always have JWs that know about these clowns, throwing these glittering jems of colossal deception my way.