i thought it would be interesting for people to just post a few things about themselves so we can get to know each other just a bit.. try posting 10 facts about your life.. joel.
1. i was born and raised in south georgia.. 2. my favorite subject in school was math.. 3. i was in the fulltime service (bethel and pioneer) for 4 years.. 4. my favorite color is blue.. 5. mitch and i have been together over 12 years.. 6. we live in a suburb of atlanta georgia.. 7. we love to eat out and have friends over for dinner and board games.. 8. the only sport i was ever any good at is tennis.. 9. my favorite tv show of all time is the simpsons.. 10. we are both naturists and wish we could lay on the beach naked every day.
Bendrr,
There is a book that reveals tons of the trivia that you request. The book is called, CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT. It was published in 1986 by Duane Magnani. I also have a few other books with several qoutes by the WT that will give you a side ache from laughing so hard.
Too bad the JWs will not look any further than what they are told.
i have classified the books by furuli and stafford to the same pile as a. h. mcmillan's book faith on the march.
it's just one way in their trying to have an influence on those people who can't be reached by the ordinary forms of witnessing or to whom the wt literature don't appeal to.
it's sad the wts has to use these kinds of pseudo-scholarly writers or pseudo-objective methods in their trying to advance their interests.
AlanF,
Good points!
I am sure they fall on deaf ears. I have raised the same points as well as others with JWs that idolize these JW apologist. I would like to know how much the WT is paying these clowns to fleece the RF.
i have classified the books by furuli and stafford to the same pile as a. h. mcmillan's book faith on the march.
it's just one way in their trying to have an influence on those people who can't be reached by the ordinary forms of witnessing or to whom the wt literature don't appeal to.
it's sad the wts has to use these kinds of pseudo-scholarly writers or pseudo-objective methods in their trying to advance their interests.
Stafford and Furuli. LOL
i thought it would be interesting for people to just post a few things about themselves so we can get to know each other just a bit.. try posting 10 facts about your life.. joel.
1. i was born and raised in south georgia.. 2. my favorite subject in school was math.. 3. i was in the fulltime service (bethel and pioneer) for 4 years.. 4. my favorite color is blue.. 5. mitch and i have been together over 12 years.. 6. we live in a suburb of atlanta georgia.. 7. we love to eat out and have friends over for dinner and board games.. 8. the only sport i was ever any good at is tennis.. 9. my favorite tv show of all time is the simpsons.. 10. we are both naturists and wish we could lay on the beach naked every day.
The extreme fascination of chess can result in its consuming large amounts of one's time and attention to the exclusion of more important matters, apparently a reason Huss regretted having played the game. Also in playing it there is the danger of "stirring up competition with one another," even developing hostility toward another, something the Bible warns Christians to avoid doing.
Then, too, grown - ups may not consider it proper for children to play with war toys, or at games of a military nature. Is it consistent, then , that they play a games noted to be , in the opinion of some, an "intellectualized equivalent" of the maneuvers enacted by little boys with toy soldiers"? What effect does playing chess really have upon one? Is it a wholesome effect?
(Awake!, 3/22/73, pp. 12-14)
i thought it would be interesting for people to just post a few things about themselves so we can get to know each other just a bit.. try posting 10 facts about your life.. joel.
1. i was born and raised in south georgia.. 2. my favorite subject in school was math.. 3. i was in the fulltime service (bethel and pioneer) for 4 years.. 4. my favorite color is blue.. 5. mitch and i have been together over 12 years.. 6. we live in a suburb of atlanta georgia.. 7. we love to eat out and have friends over for dinner and board games.. 8. the only sport i was ever any good at is tennis.. 9. my favorite tv show of all time is the simpsons.. 10. we are both naturists and wish we could lay on the beach naked every day.
This is a great thread and good topic.
1. I live in California (USA) and am 43 years old.
2. I have three kids, two daughters and a son and a fantastic wife. Two of the three kids, (daughters) were on the honor role last year. My son is in 6th grade. I have two brothers and a sister. MY oldest brother is still an elder in the WT.
3. Favorite color is blue.
4. Favorite sports are boxing and football. I used to box for several years with Senior amateurs turning pro in Sacramento CA. I had my nose broken three times and reset it myself in the gym bathroom. EEEEEEOOOOWWWW. I was reprimanded by the elders of the congregation I was in several times for boxing. Remember Pay attention 1981 page 150, no self defense classes? My brothers and I were also reprimanded for playing chess, we loved it. According to the WT at that time it was a war game,(AWAKE! 3/22//73 pp 12-14)
4. I used to run a mill for a seed processing company and helped build four different plants, one in Washington and three in California. I started my own landscaping and maintenance business in 1984 and turned over much of the business to friend of mine who did a fantastic job with it, he is an atheist, I am not. I still own the Warehouse, residential and commercial cleaning end of the business.
5. I left the WT in 1989. Because of the lies spread around about why I left, I sent out 35 letters to churches in my area along with a flyer from Bethel Ministries at that time (Freeminds now) exposing the WT. I was contacted by a church to speak about the WT and ever since have spoken at several churches and private gatherings to thousands of people about the WT and Mormonism. I have sent out several thousand pieces of info exposing the WT. I have had several hundred ads in the local papers about the WT as well as continued TV ads on our local cable stations that have ran since 1996.
6. I like family gatherings as well as barbaques with friends.
7. I read a lot, but do not have a favorite book.
8. About the only TV I watch is the History channel and Animal Planet and the weakest link, and boxing. I am just too busy to watch much TV. Football season is around the corner so I will be watching that.
9. I believe in God but do not believe the Bible to be inerrant.
10. I set goals for myself every year and usually accomplish them. Most of these are family and financial goals.
the approach of ex-jehovah's witnesses towards those still witnesses has been debated since the problem first occurred.
personally i joined the ranks of ex-witnesses in 1988 and found myself more or less thrown into the fray appearing in media like newspapers, radio and tv.
one of the first things i noticed was the interest bestowed upon me from competing churches, particularly from the pentecostalism camp.
jst2laws,
I enjoy your insight and very balanced points.
as a jw i was taught god created adam to live forever, but the genesis account seems to say otherwise:.
well first theres this weird problem, the bible says god created man and woman on the same day, the sixth day.
genesis 1:.
Yadirf,
Thank you. I will check it out tomorrow.
imagine this;.
you have been on the fence for a while, but it is becoming more and more apparent to you that your leaving is just a matter of time, and that soon, very soon, it will all come to a head.
you wait for that phone call from the elders like winston smith awaited the bullet in the back of his head.
Nice post ChuckD,
There are groups like the one you mentioned, just few and far between.
as a jw i was taught god created adam to live forever, but the genesis account seems to say otherwise:.
well first theres this weird problem, the bible says god created man and woman on the same day, the sixth day.
genesis 1:.
Yadirf,
Can you please post a link to your main page on this thread for your personal web-site.
Thank you
i have been searching the net for some excellent sites on the masons.
this past weekend we went down to nc for a wedding and my wife and i broke the news to our nonjw family that we were no longer involved with jw.
i could not believe the open arm welcome my uncle and aunt were almost in tears- they told us we have seen you come home each yr from the main office in ny and then you got married and you would come home and we wanted to say something about the jw but you seemed to be so well respected by the local jw - whenever we would tell folks that our newphew was up in ny- the jw would get all excited- they told us they thought it was so sad for i only made $90 a month.
JT,
I have two attorney friends and a seed consultant friend that are always trying to get me to come to their Mason meetings. I have a few books on the Masons as well books from the Mormon church and Joseph Smiths dealings with the Masons. I have never attended a meeting and really have no desire to do so. It seems from what I have read and understand by those who attend, it is just another exclusive club where nonsense takes place.
