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1975 ???

by Scorpion in

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the end of 6000 years is 1873. wt 7/15/1894 p.1675.

"in what year, then, would the first 6,000 years of man's existence and also the first 6,000 years of god's rest day come to an end?

the year 1975.

I know of many who lived as if the Watchtower was telling them the truth about 1975. One elder in the congregation I was in at that time sold his ranch and a home as well as two other people selling their homes before 1975. Many I know did not pursue higher education because of the WTs jumping the gun with their own sloppy opinions about 1975, thinking the end was just around the corner.

Maybe you were one of those that just did not take the WT seriuosly about the 1975 fiasco. GOOD FOR YOU! Hopefully you as well as many today that are JWs will see through the organization for what it is, a fable oriented abomination of half truths, lies and mind-control.

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1975 ???

by Scorpion in

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the end of 6000 years is 1873. wt 7/15/1894 p.1675.

"in what year, then, would the first 6,000 years of man's existence and also the first 6,000 years of god's rest day come to an end?

the year 1975.

Scorpion

The end of 6000 years is 1873. WT 7/15/1894 p.1675

"In what year, then, would the first 6,000 years of man's existence and also the first 6,000 years of God's rest day come to an end? The year 1975." AFAKE 10/8/1966,p.19

C.Sunutko-Watchtower Circuit Overseer Spring 1967, Sheboygan, WI Assembly of Jehovah's Witnesses. Title of talk, SERVING WITH EVERLASTING LIFE IN VIEW. Much was said about the end of this system culminating in 1975.

Do not pursue higher education. There is very little time left! Make pioneer service, the full-time ministry with the possibility of Bethel or missionary service, your goal. WT 3/15/1969

Since there is such a short time left, study no longer than six months with a prospective convert. WT 5/15/1969

"Reports are heard of brothers selling their homes and property and planning to finish out the rest of their days in this old system in the pioneer service. Certainly this is a fine way to spend the short time remaining before the wicked world's end." KINGDOM MINISTRY 5/1974, P.3

A great crowd of people are confident that great destruction is imminent, which has been a major factor in their decision not to have children. AFAKE 11/8/1974, p.11

The outcome of listening to the Watchtower Society, no education, no home, no kids, no life!

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better or worse??

by peaceloveharmony in

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hi-i have a question for everyone.

i was just wondering if your life has improved since you've left the org?

for me i left when i was 17, went to college, met a great guy who i live with now and have a ton of great friends.

Scorpion

IT is great to be truly free. Things with me have been great since leaving the WT. I have set aside the feeling that Jehovah is going to kill me if I do not atone to the rantings of an organization. The organization offers false security and hopes. Proverbs 13:12 says: Expectation postponed is making the heart sick, but the thing desired is a tree of life when it does come.

The WT from the begenning has misled people with false hopes and dates and has offered them something that only God can give. When we come to grips with this, we are on our way to true freedom.

The leaders and past presidents of the WT, I am sure will be held accountable for their misguided dogma and bad treatment of innocent individuals.

Edited by - Scorpion on 19 January 2001 2:22:48

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New To this Forum

by RJB in

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this is my first time on this board.

i have been a jw for over 40 years but currently am very discouraged and not very active.

i served at bethel for 4 years, 1963-67, spent most of my time at the kindom farms, s.lansing, ny.

Scorpion

RJB,

You will find friends here that you can express yourself too without fear of alienation. We do have a few disagreements, but everyone here is entitled to their opinion and are free to express it.
Sorry to hear about your wife and you splitting up. The lie that the organization teaches, that it brings families together once again proves false.
Good to have you here.

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JW Preaching Work Ends in 20th Century ?

by Scorpion in

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page 12 of the january 1,1989 wt original magazine paragraph 8 ends with the statement that the apostle paul's missionary activity laid a foundation for a work that would be completed in our 20th century.".

(a subtle prophecy that 'the end' will come by the year 2000 a.d.).

this sentence is changed in the bound volume reprint to read "a work that would be completed in our day.

Scorpion

thinker,

You are right about statements not matching on the WT CD. I find this true about most religions that have CDs out. It seems that most religions try to cover over the old foot in the mouth by their leaders. If the rank and file would catch a clue they would realize that following men leads you off a cliff.

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Visiting a KH...

by ianao in

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a 'friend' of mine keeps telling me that everything i am reading here on this board is a packload of lies from people who have no respect for god.. he also tells me that if i would just go to the kh for once, that i would see for myself that jws are not the bad people that they are portrayed to be.. while i have my own convictions about this subject, i was curious to know what others' opinions would be on the fruitfullness of taking up this man's offer and going to the kh to see for myself.

so, what do you think?

what should i watch out for?

Scorpion

Ianano,

It is always good to see both sides of the issue. In this case, I see nothing wrong with you going to the Kingdom Hall with your friend. I also see nothing wrong with you stepping in front of a train bearing down at the speed of 50 miles per hour. Your chances with the train are better than the deception of the WT.

To attend a meeting at the Kingdom Hall, unless very familiar with what this religion is, I would strongly suggest against it.

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Are you Ex's still Christian?

by joel in

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whassup guys.

i've spent most of my web time over the last 2 years at another site full of ex-jdubs...i'd say about 50 people post there on occasion...many of that number regularly.. what struck me from the beginning, as i got to know the people posting there was...how many were now atheists...non-believers in god...the bible...pretty much anything they once held sacred as jw's!.

i dare say...90 some % do not consider themselves christian now!.

Scorpion

Joel,

I have listened to John MacArthur's Grace to You program. He does have some good messages.

I have attended several churches in the past 10 years since leaving the WT. Calvary Chapel is the most laid back and informal. The messages are less dogmatic or legalistic but still go in line with the Bible. I also attend the LDS (Mormon)church at times. The reason for so doing are for research purposes, not because I believe the teachings of the LDS, as a matter of fact I find most of their doctrines moronic. I have problems with believing that the Bibles we have today are exact or represent the original manuscripts. I believe they all have been tampered with to a degree and most are written with a bias.

Take for instance 1 John 5:7 For there are three that testify: the Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement. NIV

The KJV says: For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

I find it interesting that the words (in heaven: the Father, the Word and the Spirit, and these three are one; there are three witnesses on earth) are not found in any of the early Gk MSS, or any of the early translations, or in the best MSS of the Vulg. itself. I see these words added to form a more Trinitarian bias. It appears that the words Father, the Word and the Spirit and these three are one are probably a gloss that has crept into the text.

As far as my belief, I do believe in God and his son Jesus.

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Are you Ex's still Christian?

by joel in

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whassup guys.

i've spent most of my web time over the last 2 years at another site full of ex-jdubs...i'd say about 50 people post there on occasion...many of that number regularly.. what struck me from the beginning, as i got to know the people posting there was...how many were now atheists...non-believers in god...the bible...pretty much anything they once held sacred as jw's!.

i dare say...90 some % do not consider themselves christian now!.

Scorpion

Simon,

Do you believe science can explain prophecy?

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JW Preaching Work Ends in 20th Century ?

by Scorpion in

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page 12 of the january 1,1989 wt original magazine paragraph 8 ends with the statement that the apostle paul's missionary activity laid a foundation for a work that would be completed in our 20th century.".

(a subtle prophecy that 'the end' will come by the year 2000 a.d.).

this sentence is changed in the bound volume reprint to read "a work that would be completed in our day.

Scorpion

Page 12 of the January 1,1989 WT original magazine paragraph 8 ends with the statement that the apostle Paul's missionary activity laid a foundation for a work that would be completed in our 20th century."

(a subtle prophecy that 'the end' will come by the year 2000 A.D.)

This sentence is changed in the bound volume reprint to read "a work that would be completed in our day."

63

Are you Ex's still Christian?

by joel in

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friends

whassup guys.

i've spent most of my web time over the last 2 years at another site full of ex-jdubs...i'd say about 50 people post there on occasion...many of that number regularly.. what struck me from the beginning, as i got to know the people posting there was...how many were now atheists...non-believers in god...the bible...pretty much anything they once held sacred as jw's!.

i dare say...90 some % do not consider themselves christian now!.

Scorpion

Does one have to label themselves Christian to be a believer in God?

Where did the term Christian come from?