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Judicial Hearing-Elders Afraid

by silentlambs in

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Scorpion

Interesting, a Kingdom Hall with windows.

Great job Bill!

The more I read about this, the more these guys look like clowns.

Scorpion

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Strength Building for Seniors

by Scorpion in

strength building for seniors .

for those of us getting along in years, here is a little secret for building your arm and shoulder muscles.

you might want to adopt this regimen!

Scorpion

STRENGTH BUILDING FOR SENIORS

For those of us getting along in years, here is a little secret for building your arm and shoulder muscles. You might want to adopt this regimen!

Three days a week works well. Begin by standing outside behind the house, and with a 5-lb. Potato sack in each hand, extend your arms straight out to your sides and hold them there as long as you can.

After a few weeks, move up to 10-lb. potato sacks and then 50-lb. potato sacks, and finally get to where you can lift a 100 lb. potato sack in each hand and hold your arms straight for more than a full minute.

Next, start putting a few potatoes in the sacks, but be careful not to overdo it at this level.

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Another Pedophile Scandal

by Scorpion in

http://www.aim.org/publications/media_monitor/2002/07/11.html

another pedophile scandal by reed irvine and cliff kincaid july 11, 2002. .

coverage continues of pedophile allegations and cover-ups by catholic.

Scorpion

Jan,

Thanks for the info. Here is some more information on this from a friend that has his own forum and deals with many Muslims.

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How could those Muslim leaders not know when it is in their hadeeths? And how can they say it is an attack when it's written by Muslims DURING Muhammad's era? And how can they say it's mythological when the foundation of Islam and their salvation rituals are based heavily on the hadeeths? Those leaders are not addressing the issues that puts their religion in doubt. Here's info on who this Aisha is and the Hadeeths that proves her young age:

AISHA BINT ABU BAKR
daughter of Abu Bakr and third wife of Muhammad. According to the ahadith in Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim, and numerous other reports, she married Muhammad at the age of 6 when Muhammad was 53 and they consummated their marriage at the age of 9.

Narrated 'Ursa:
The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death). (Sahih Bukhari 7.8
Narrated 'Aisha:
I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13) (Sahih Bukhari 8.151)
Narrated 'Aisha:
Allah's Apostle said to me, "You were shown to me twice (in my dream) before I married you. I saw an angel carrying you in a silken piece of cloth, and I said to him, 'Uncover (her),' and behold, it was you. I said (to myself), 'If this is from Allah, then it must happen.' Then you were shown to me, the angel carrying you in a silken piece of cloth, and I said (to him), 'Uncover (her), and behold, it was you. I said (to myself), 'If this is from Allah, then it must happen.' " (Sahih Bukhari 9.140)
Some Muslims claimed that Muhammad did not initiate the marriage with Aisha, but that Abu Bakr, after Aisha was spunned by a prospector and was not able to find another man to marry her, approached Muhammad to marry here. However, the following hadith clearly showed that it was Muhammad who was the initiator and Abu Bakr was even shocked at that suggestion.
Narrated 'Ursa:
The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry." (Sahih Bukhari 7.1
Narrated Hisham's father:
Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old. (Sahih Bukhari 5.236. see also Sahih Bukhari 7.64, Sahih Bukhari 7.65)
Aisha was surprised at the (consummation) of marriage"
Narrated Aisha:
When the Prophet married me, my mother came to me and made me enter the house (of the Prophet) and nothing surprised me but the coming of Allah's Apostle to me in the forenoon. (Sahih Bukhari 7.90)
Narrated Aisha:
The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. (Sahih Bukhari 5.234)

Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:
The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) married me when I was seven or six. When we came to Medina, some women came. according to Bishr's version: Umm Ruman came to me when I was swinging. They took me, made me prepared and decorated me. I was then brought to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him), and he took up cohabitation with me when I was nine. She halted me at the door, and I burst into laughter. (Sunan Abu Da'ud 41.4915, Sunan Abu Da'ud 41.4916, Sunan Abu Da'ud 41.4917)
Aisha related many hadiths which became the basis of many portions of the Shar'ia. She was given the title Mother of the Believers (Ummul Mu'minin).

Some others have contended that the hadith reports are inaccurate as regards her age: The Learner disagrees and gives more details, while another confirms that she was 9 years old, (The Young Marriage of 'Aishah), besides taking some snipes at Christians.

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Another Pedophile Scandal

by Scorpion in

http://www.aim.org/publications/media_monitor/2002/07/11.html

another pedophile scandal by reed irvine and cliff kincaid july 11, 2002. .

coverage continues of pedophile allegations and cover-ups by catholic.

Scorpion

http://www.aim.org/publications/media_monitor/2002/07/11.html

Another Pedophile Scandal By Reed Irvine and Cliff Kincaid July 11, 2002

Coverage continues of pedophile allegations and cover-ups by Catholic
priests and bishops. But what if the founder of a major religion was a
pedophile? Baptist preacher Jerry Vines, a former president of the
Southern Baptist Convention, ignited a firestorm in the media with his
claim that, "Islam was founded by Muhammad, a demon-possessed pedophile
who had 12 wives, the last one of which was a 9-year-old girl." American
Muslim groups have cried foul, and the Anti-Defamation League, a Jewish
group, issued a protest. Commentator William Rivers Pitt has said,
"Imagine if someone called Jesus Christ a demon-possessed individual
who consorted with known whores."

At the very end of a long story about this controversy, the Washington
Post noted that an Islamic holy book says that, "The Prophet [Muhammad]
married [Aisha] when she was six years old and he consummated his
marriage when she was nine years old." The literal words say that he had
sex with a nine year old girl. The Post quoted Ibrahim Hooper, spokesman
for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, as saying that many
Islamic scholars interpret that passage to mean Aisha was 16 when she
was betrothed to Muhammad and 19 when they wed.

By contrast, Myles Kantor, a columnist for FrontPage Magazine, says that
Vines description "is theologically and historically grounded."
Regarding the charge of pedophilia, he said, "one of Muhammads wives
was betrothed to him at six years old. The marriage was consummated when
she was nine. Enough said."

Demons were frequently cited as the cause of mental or physical
afflictions in the days when people didnt understand science or
medicine. But in regard to the counter-claim of Jesus consorting with
prostitutes, such a statement ignores his condemnation of prostitution
and his attempts to convert them. On the other hand, the statement about
Muhammad having sex with a nine year old girl can only be re-interpreted
by completely changing the words and their meaning.

"We don't understand why this is a controversy," Dr. Ergun Caner told
the Dallas Morning News. He claimed the statement is "in Islam's
teaching something we were taught as children." Dr. Caner, who was
born a Muslim, is the co-author of the book, "Unveiling Islam: An
Insider's Look at Muslim Life and Beliefs." On CNNs Crossfire, Tucker
Carlson asked Hussein Ibish of the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination
Committee, "Did Muhammad have a nine-year-old wife?" Ibish replied, "I
have no idea and neither does anybody else. To be honest with you, that
happened 1,500 years ago. Much of this is mythological ... It's not the
point." Carlson asked, "Do Muslim scholars believe it to be true? Ibish
replied, "Actually, I have no idea about whom the prophet married, and
when, and why -- and it doesn't matter. The point is that this is part
and parcel of a generalized attack on Islam and Muslims."

It may be part of an attack on Muslims but that begs the question of
whether the statement is true or not. If the Catholics should be held
accountable for pedophiles in their midst, the Muslims should too, even
if it is their founder.

Reed Irvine can be reached at [email protected]

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(Important)

by Scorpion in

thought i should pass this on to you.. i just saw this.

now you can see anyone's driver's license on the.

internet - including your own!

Scorpion

Thought I should pass this on to you.

I just saw this. Now you can see anyone's Driver's License on the
Internet - including your own! I just searched for mine and there it
was...picture and all!

Maybe we should start up a petition or something protesting
this. What do you think?

Go to the website and check it out. It's unbelievable!!! Just enter
your name, City and state to see if yours is on file. After your license
comes on the screen, click the box marked "Please Remove"

http://www.license.shorturl.com

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A few Racist quotes from the past

by Scorpion in

1900 "there are probably as many as a hundred colored brethren on the watch .

tower lists, some of them very clear in the truth, and very earnest in its service, .

financially and other-wise .. [but they are not allowed to participate in the "pioneer .

Scorpion

minimus,

I am sure RR will agree with many things Russell claimed about himself and what he stated. I am not sure though that RR will agree with what you said," Whatever brother Russell taught could be properly veiwed as from Jehovah."

There were many things Russell said that were just flat out rediculous.

White people living in China eventually produce Chinese offspring-without intermarrying-due to the influence of soil and climate. WT 7/15/1902,p.3043

1913"Some have a strong desire to worship God, others have a weak desire, and others have no desire at all. This difference is due to the shape of the brain. Mankind are born with differences in this respect. -'Psa. 51:5'" {WR Mar 15 1913 5201}

1915 "Man's head is shaped differently; therefore he can think of subjects about which the lower animals cannot think .. A man with a head of a given shape cannot think with the same breadth of mind as a man with a better shaped head - a man who is less fallen. Some have lost more, others less, of the original perfection, of the original intelligence, given man in his creation." {WR Jan 15 1915 5611}

Scorpion

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A few Racist quotes from the past

by Scorpion in

1900 "there are probably as many as a hundred colored brethren on the watch .

tower lists, some of them very clear in the truth, and very earnest in its service, .

financially and other-wise .. [but they are not allowed to participate in the "pioneer .

Scorpion

Kenneson,

Your site is one of my favorites. I use it periodically.

Scorpion

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A few Racist quotes from the past

by Scorpion in

1900 "there are probably as many as a hundred colored brethren on the watch .

tower lists, some of them very clear in the truth, and very earnest in its service, .

financially and other-wise .. [but they are not allowed to participate in the "pioneer .

Scorpion

You are right Jan. At that time what was stated about blacks was highly accepted among most caucasions.

For Russell to be God's servant and saying what he said, must have shown that he served a prejudice God and one that did not look at each individual equally and weigh their heart condition but looked at the skin color and weighed his decision on that.

Scorpion

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A few Racist quotes from the past

by Scorpion in

1900 "there are probably as many as a hundred colored brethren on the watch .

tower lists, some of them very clear in the truth, and very earnest in its service, .

financially and other-wise .. [but they are not allowed to participate in the "pioneer .

Scorpion

1900 "There are probably as many as a hundred colored brethren on the Watch
Tower lists, some of them very clear in the truth, and very earnest in its service,
financially and other-wise .. [but they are not allowed to participate in the "pioneer
work" as] although we have received letters from several of these, who had intended
engaging in the volunteer work, expressing surprise that in the call for volunteers in
the March 1, 1900 issue we restricted the inquiry to white Protestant churches. ..
The reason is that so far as we are able to judge, colored people have less education
than whites - many of them quite insufficient to permit them to profit by such reading
as we have to give forth. Our conclusion therefore is based upon the supposition that
reading matter distributed to a colored congregation would more than half of it be
utterly wasted, and a very small percentage indeed likely to yield good results. We
advise, therefore, that where the Watch Tower literature is introduced to colored
people it be not by promiscuous circulation, but only to those who give evidence of
some ear for the truth. {ZWT Apr 15 1900 122}

1901 "'It too often happens that, while the negro rapidly masters the rules and
regulations of the Christian religion, he still continues to be gross, immoral, and
deceitful. They (missionaries) may have succeeded in turning their disciples into
professing Catholics, Anglicans, or Baptists; but the impartial observer is surprised to
find that adultery, drunkenness, and lying are more apparent among the converts than
among their heathen brethren.' And again: 'I regret to say that, with a few - very rare
- exceptions, those native African pastors, teachers, and catechists whom I have met
have been all, more or less, bad men. They attempted to veil an unbridled immorality
with an unblushing hypocrisy and a profane display of mouth-religion which, to an
honest mind, seemed even more disgusting than the immorality itself. While it was
apparent that not one particle of true religion had made its way into their gross
minds, it was also evident that the spirit of sturdy manliness which was present in
their savage forefathers found no place in their false, cowardly natures.." [Given as a
quotation by Russell without adverse comment] {ZWT Aug 15 1901 266}

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Thinnest Books of All Time

by Scorpion in

subject: thinnest books of all time.

~ my beauty secrets by janet reno.

~ how to build your own airplane by john denver.

Scorpion

Subject: Thinnest Books of All Time

~ MY BEAUTY SECRETS by Janet Reno
~ HOW TO BUILD YOUR OWN AIRPLANE by John Denver
~ MY SUPER BOWL HIGHLIGHTS by Dan Marino
~ THINGS I LOVE ABOUT BILL by HILLARY CLINTON
~ MY LIFE'S MEMORIES by Ronald Reagan
~ THINGS I CANNOT AFFORD by Bill Gates
~ THINGS I WOULD NOT DO FOR MONEY by Dennis Rodman
~ MY WILD YEARS by Al Gore
~ AMELIA EARHART'S GUIDE TO THE PACIFIC
~ AMERICA'S MOST POPULAR LAWYERS
~ DETROIT a Travel Guide
~ A COLLECTION of MOTIVATIONAL SPEECHES by DR J. Kevorkian
~ EVERYTHING MEN KNOW ABOUT WOMEN
~ EVERYTHING WOMEN KNOW ABOUT MEN
~ ALL THE MEN I HAVE LOVED BEFORE by Ellen de Generes
~ MIKE TYSON'S GUIDE TO DATING ETIQUETTE
~ SPOTTED OWL RECIPES by the EPA
~ THE AMISH PHONE DIRECTORY
~ MY PLAN TO FIND THE REAL KILLERS by O. J. Simpson
~ MY BOOK OF MORALS - by Bill Clinton/with introduction by The Rev.
Jessie Jackson