It's just meaningless words. If anyone really missed us they would call or at least text but nothing.
They don't knowo what else to say.
warning, zeb is having a rant.. i have become so pissed off at jw i bump into who come out with "we have not seen you in ages" and with "we miss you.." my answer is the same "miss me?.
i still live in the same house.".
just recently one sister said she missed my comments and jokes.
It's just meaningless words. If anyone really missed us they would call or at least text but nothing.
They don't knowo what else to say.
spoke to my younger brother dan yesterday (he da'd about 6 months ago).
he was telling me that he got a visit from our older brother the day before.
our older brother was raised a jw but never committed, lives a full-on "worldly" life - smokes, binge drinks, hangs out with non-jws, but he's been studying for about 6 years would you believe?.
Hahahaha. My mother is very susceptible to demons. Just this month she got given a dress by a sister and started hearing whistling at night so she assumed the dress had com from a second hand shop and she put it in the backyard to test her theory. Whistling stopped so the dress was put in the garbage.
i consider myself an atheist.
and right now i'm reading a lot on atheism in general (books written to answer creationists).. i'd be interested in knowing how you became an atheist after leaving the jws and how long did it take?
was it instant or did your belief in a deity gradually decline?.
Just reviewing my prayers and realising I had been talking to myself.
I was told that God only answers prayers in line with his will so you can't ask to win the lotto for instance.
I was very careful not to ask for "selfish" things but still nothing.
Then you have ones tell you that God helped them find their keys or something equally trivial that most people can do without any divine intervention.
I watched Serena Williams thank her God Jehovah when she won tennis but not help ones who really needed it.
Only logical conclusion is that he is not there.
i converted at age 22, and left 15 years later (1988) so i don't really know what its like to be in high school as a jw.
for those of you who do know: do teenage jw's hang out with each other?
worldly kids?
I think it depends on who you are and where you are.
Growing up in the 80s where I grew up, unless you were an elders child or well to do, you were pretty much irrelevant. Oh unless of course you were an attractive, single brother - then of course all the sisters and their mothers had you on their radar. Hahahaha.
There were parties and socializing for the "in" crowd and it seems much the same today from what I can tell.
i know of 1 that watched the video and never went back.. i think for some it was a the sum of the total or the "last straw" if you like.. karter..
I was already out when I became aware of the ARC but after reading the transcripts and watching video of the brother's testimony and their bold faced lies - I knew I was done for good.
4 zombies at the door.
i come out with the nwt and ask who wants to talk about the bible.
if you don't want to talk about the bible why the fuck did you knock and counting time.
Its sad that no one wanted to actually have a biblical discussion. When I was growing up the houses where you could get into the nitty gritty of the scriptures were something the pioneers loved. Now its just baby sitting book shelves and running from house to house leaving tracts that will be trashed as soon as the door closes.
So much for the urgency of the "time of the end".
i was having a conversation with another ex jw about difficulties when you have been a born-in and indoctrinated from birth.
it just is so disheartening that if and when you do wake up and leave that all that crap is still in your brain.
you just can't unplug.
It will always be in the back of your mind. In my opinion seeking help from a "group" set up is just swapping one controlling influence for another.
I know of some who have found professional help by way of psychologist to be helpful.
This site has been a tremendous help to me.
I have a few "worldly" friends that I have met along the way who I have told of my choice to leave the cult and they have been very supportive and assured me that I am not alone. These are proving to be real "unconditional" friends.
Find something you like doing, be it going to the gym, art classes etc and soon you will find yourself with friends who like the same things you do. It wont happen over night but it will happen.
he was basically a good man, just a believer in the religion.
when we were both elders we were best of friends and then things deteriorated when i was not an elder for a while.
then after becoming an elder again, i slowly drifted away from the religion and he drifted further away from me.
Condolences to you.
move forward as a spiritual person.. paragraph 2 "robert and his wife began passing time by quizzing each other on bible subjects.
his wife, a spiritually strong person, had no problem answering the questions, but robert found himself constantly embarrassed, not knowing what to say.".
there is no indication of how she fits the template of a spiritual person other than she can answer bible trivia.
The problem with that is that a person can have very good "head knowledge" of the scriptures without believing it or being a spiritual person.
We have all seen ones who can talk the talk but certainly do not walk the walk. Paedophiles for example.
i feel as is he himself wants me to find a life my lost life..affordability jobless almost homeless doe to rent cost..i trust jahova witness and respect their teachings cause to before i liked and understand their mind..but my heart didn't resolve cause my brain not very helpfully i understand i have a important future roll i trust for the first time in jahova..i respect and my person addiction brothers please pray for me, please brothers and sisters please i don't want become a homeless or b more lost in wonder i one jobless truly if am here is because of jahova..the fact of loving a somebody not approved by god or nature i feel as if i like to serve jav as becoming a bomb to kill bugs that harm the good really.
Isn't there a saying "the Lord helps those who help themselves"?
Don't rely on the brothers and sisters. Seek help from professionals.