That is a very interesting question and something I have never given any thought to. I do wonder why people actually believe Jehovah will help them find their lost keys for instance but have no issue with the fact that he doesn't help the ones with Cancer etc.
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The prayer switch
by Sour Grapes insomething that i have often thought about is how does god know when our thoughts go from normal thoughts to when we say a silent prayer?
does god listen to all of the thoughts of earth's 8,000,000,000 people 24/7 and when one person goes into prayer mode then god's ears perk up with an "incoming" alert?
then he has to decide if he answers the prayers to help a brother with cancer or just let the poor guy die.
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How Would You Console A Witness Who Has Lost A Loved One?
by minimus inlet’s say that you haven’t been around a kingdom hall in years and everyone knows you are not a “true believer “ anymore.
yet a tragedy strikes and you want to give a real heartfelt expression of your feelings— what would you say?
would you acknowledge the resurrection hope that the witnesses entertain or say something very different?.
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moreconfusedthanever
I remember when my dad passed away. We had a memorial service for him at our local kingdom hall. Over 400 turned up. I wondered where all these people were in his life while he was alive because they sure were not friends. Anyway I digress.
Every single JW person in the hall wanted to come and offer their condolences in person. What a long afternoon that was! And every single JW person offered the same words "you will see him again in the new system", "its such a comfort that we have the resurrection hope".
Guess what? It is not a freaking comfort at all! I remember saying to my husband that the next person who says that to me is going to get punched in the face. I was still "in the truth" at the time and I found no comfort in the resurrection hope at all. I wanted my dad here now. I wanted him to see his grandchildren grow up and teach them what he knows. I wanted to be able to have conversations with him and hug him and he was gone. Even if I did survive the big A who knows how long it would be before he came back to us. I remember one talk at a convention the brother said we may have to wait 400 years or more to see our loved ones back because they were not all coming back at once. What?!!
So the next time I had to write a condolence card to a sister I just wrote something like this
"Nothing will take away the pain and grief that you feel now. In time you will find comfort and happiness in remembering the good times and appreciating that you had your loved one in your life for as long as you did."
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Today's Text: Education Is Important... Not You, Higher Education!
by Divergent intuesday, october 24. wisdom is good for you.
if you find it, you will have a future.—prov.
24:14.. as parents, you want your teenage children to remain spiritually healthy.
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And they say they don't tear families apart. They say we all have our own free will.
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Pioneer Elder Still in Jail (follow up report)
by James Jack inconfirmed by a family friend and elder who lives in the area!
he was a pioneer elder in a port st lucie (river view congregation) fl, convention and assembly speaker, a"shining star" of the circuit and had served at bethel for several years.
was sexually abusing his step daughter from age 8 to 12. his wife has divorced him and moved back to tennessee.
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moreconfusedthanever
punkofnice you are right. It is no longer shocking. Yet still you will find ones in the congregations who feel sorry for the accused because he said he didn't do it. There is a brother from my previous congregation in jail right now for pedophilia. "Oh he admitted guilt on the first charge but he says he didn't do anything to the second accuser". This is supposed to make me feel bad for him? He should have been in jail after the first time!!!
And my personal red flag "the two witness rule is there for a protection so that people cannot make accusations that are not true". What!!!???
I asked one of my family "does it not bother you that your donations will be going to pay for lawsuits such as the $66million suit brought against the society in Canada?" Answer "No this is what Jehovah wants of me. It says so. Jehovah will sort it out."
Wow! Just Wow!
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Random thought: Today is the 45 anniversary of my baptism
by NewYork44M ini was on the bus this morning and this thought came up while i was playing candy crush.
happy baptism birthday to me.
i was a mere child when baptized.
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mine is coming up in a couple of days. 33 years ago. The two brothers from my congregation, who were also children at the time, are no longer "in the truth" either.
We were never going to finish school. Then we were never going to get married. Then we would never have children this side of the big A.
We never planned for our future and we never followed a career path. Now we may have to be a burden to our children in our retirement.
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Re: Mentally diseased
by carla ini have been thinking about the mentally diseased belief/doctrine of jw's lately and the thread the other day about the mentally challenged child who was brutally (and humorously) honest at a convention got me to wonder something.
it seems to me that jw's use 'mentally diseased' in such a derogatory way as if it is a failing on the part of the person, or almost sinful (demons?
), or perhaps that person should just be dismissed on all counts all the time.
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I have an autistic son. He doesn't believe that god exists. His mind needs evidence, definitive proof of everything. Blind faith - nope wont have a bar of it.
I often think that the increase diagnosis of autism will one day see the majority of the population unable to grasp the concept of a God. The Autistic mind will become the norm and the neurotypicals will be the odd ones. One well known psychologist Tony Attwood has said that autism may be the next step in evolution.
The autistic mind is pretty awesome. They are not pretenders or fake. They say it as it as they see it. I for one enjoy the honesty.
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Today's Text: Education Is Important... Not You, Higher Education!
by Divergent intuesday, october 24. wisdom is good for you.
if you find it, you will have a future.—prov.
24:14.. as parents, you want your teenage children to remain spiritually healthy.
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It says teenage children. You need to force and insist that the teenagers believe because by this time they have worked out it is all BS. Blackmail them into baptism by withholding basic rights such as a driver's licence.
Threaten them with cutting them off that way they will love Jehovah and the Org all the more.
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A Visit from the JWs, knocking at our door...!
by Muddy Waters inha, another visit from the jws.... thankfully they are few and far between (seem to roll around whenever the co visits or is about to visit...)an elder and his wife, presenting the magazines and inviting us to the talks, which are "so encouraging".
he had the saddest, most hang-dog expression, as he bemoaned these last days, so critical to deal with, and how the world was getting so terrible, things are so bad, blah blah blah, and every time i looked at her, she smiled encouragingly at me with that bright-eyed, put-on "sincere" smile.
i thanked them for coming, and said, "i appreciate you thinking about us" (after they said how the "missed us" at the meetings, ugh) -- "but we know where the kingdom hall is if we decide to go back.
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jp1692 lol good thing is I do not miss them.
Incognito I have not heard the term "nonvite". I like it!
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A Visit from the JWs, knocking at our door...!
by Muddy Waters inha, another visit from the jws.... thankfully they are few and far between (seem to roll around whenever the co visits or is about to visit...)an elder and his wife, presenting the magazines and inviting us to the talks, which are "so encouraging".
he had the saddest, most hang-dog expression, as he bemoaned these last days, so critical to deal with, and how the world was getting so terrible, things are so bad, blah blah blah, and every time i looked at her, she smiled encouragingly at me with that bright-eyed, put-on "sincere" smile.
i thanked them for coming, and said, "i appreciate you thinking about us" (after they said how the "missed us" at the meetings, ugh) -- "but we know where the kingdom hall is if we decide to go back.
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So nice of them to come in person. When the CO is due around here we get phone calls 20minutes before the meeting starts and maybe a text message.
Recently my mother was saying how many miss us. I told her "my phone is not ringing off the hook and I have had the same number since 1999."
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Classic situation at Circuit Assembly Day
by freddo inso i've just skived off to the car park half way through our assembly day - what a classic morning.. i'm sat right behind an early-teen kid with some sort of special needs (autistic?
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(or married to an unbelieving mate?
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moreconfusedthanever
Poor kid. Having to sit there would have been pure torture for him and he would be aware that his mother was embarrassed by him and that is not fair on him. Honesty should not cause embarrassment. I have a SNK who speaks his mind and I am never embarrassed by it. Surprised sometimes for sure. He sees and notices things us neurotypical do not and it is never boring in his presence. Haha.