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  My 71st Birthday Confessional

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was born january 15, 1947in mt.

  carmel hospital, detroit, michigan.. within six months of my birth, my mother would bundle her baby boy into a blanket and board an american airlines propeller-driven plane--in effect, leaving my father behind--to return to her hometown, ft. worth, texas.. my dad had an excellent job working for cadillac as an inspector.

  it was a union job.

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  moreconfusedthanever

  Happy birthday!
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  Non JW and JW friendships

  by ricsa in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  himy story is as follows.

  i've been friends with a guy for round 1,5 years.

  he told me once he had another guy friend who was gay.

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  moreconfusedthanever

  Some JWs will become your friend first. Make themselves seem just like everyone else but in the back of their mind is their intention of teaching you the "truth" and converting you.
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  Suing the Org

  by dantoole87 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i believe that i have a good cause to sue the organization.

  but i know that they have crafted themselves a legal loophole infinite loop.

  so i was thinking that i should just sue the congregation that i know fucked me over.

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  moreconfusedthanever

  I don't know. Leaving the cult is a grieving process and anger is one of the stages.

  If you want your card you could get legal help to get it without suing anyone. A law suit will not concern the 7 dwarves one iota but just cause you added anger and anxiety.

  We are of no consequence to the JW.org machine. Better to make a speedy recovery and live a happy life and give no more of your precious time to them.

  That's just my opinion.
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  Manmade rules

  by Jrjw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was talking to someone a few years ago and he said in his congregation they have a rail of white shirts prepared in the cloakroom for if a speaker doesn't have a white shirt on.

  it was a rule in their hall that all brothers in the platform must wear white shirts when going talks and if the speaker won't comply when asked to change into the shirt they provide an elder in the congregation will do the talk instead.

  i have never known any other halls do it so it must be a rule the elders have made up without gb input.

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  moreconfusedthanever

  In a congregation here one sister was told she could not be a householder for a talk one evening because she was wearing footless tights and even though she had a long skirt on, they looked too much like pants. They asked her to go home and change. She did because her dad was an elder and she didn't want to cause trouble.

  It was a CO that informed me that young ones, having followed all the rules all their lives, being ridiculed at school for not eating birthday cake and refusing to colour in eggs at Easter etc etc. Having always identified themselves as one of the JWs were in fact actually unbelievers until such time as they get baptised. For this reason a baptised person should not consider such ones as potential marriage mates. What he actually said was "he should not have put his eyes on an unbaptized person. End of story."

  This issue came up because In our congregation at the time, the elders reversed their decision to allow a young lady to get baptised, the night before it was due to happen because her parents feared she would run away and marry the young brother she had been seeing.

  The young couple had not planned to marry so soon but on the back of this ridiculous situation they did just that. They got married (eloped) with much cloak and dagger as her family threatened to lock her up so she couldn't make her wedding, moved away and the CO of their new congregation allowed her to get baptised when he heard the story.

  Thankfully they left the religion not long after.
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  Manmade rules

  by Jrjw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was talking to someone a few years ago and he said in his congregation they have a rail of white shirts prepared in the cloakroom for if a speaker doesn't have a white shirt on.

  it was a rule in their hall that all brothers in the platform must wear white shirts when going talks and if the speaker won't comply when asked to change into the shirt they provide an elder in the congregation will do the talk instead.

  i have never known any other halls do it so it must be a rule the elders have made up without gb input.

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  Neat blue dog - at the time the national average was 10 hours a month. I have no idea what it is now. Less I would imagine.
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  Manmade rules

  by Jrjw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was talking to someone a few years ago and he said in his congregation they have a rail of white shirts prepared in the cloakroom for if a speaker doesn't have a white shirt on.

  it was a rule in their hall that all brothers in the platform must wear white shirts when going talks and if the speaker won't comply when asked to change into the shirt they provide an elder in the congregation will do the talk instead.

  i have never known any other halls do it so it must be a rule the elders have made up without gb input.

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  Yes we had a CO who hated shirts of colour and white socks. Said it made the brothers look like the mafia so only white shirts and dark socks allowed on his watch.

  No privileges for brothers unless doing the national average field service.
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  My fading suffered a miscarriage

  by Ireneus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i thought of successfully fading out, but suffered a miscarriage last week.

  i gradually decreased the number of meetings i attended.

  in the latter half of the year it became once a month, then once in two months, once in three months ….. last week, two elders who visited me, after their bla..bla..asked: “where will you go leaving the motherly organization—the only truth now available on earth?”.

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  Motherly organization! I would have asked them to show me where it says that in the bible. Also I would have mentioned that even Geoff Jackson doesn't believe they are the only truth holders on Earth as that would seem presumptuous. Then I would have directed them to Terry O'Brien's testimony to the ARC that one may stop having anything to do with the JWs without having to disassociate or be disfellowshiped.
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  Brotherly love in action..

  by Jrjw in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm so upset and angry at the same time.

  i move in less than 2 weeks and was supposed to be getting help off "brothers" to move and one of them was driving the van and now the elders have had a meeting and told the brothers they can't help coz i'm separated from my (abusive) jw husband and with moving it puts the chances of reconciliation (of which there was zero chance) even further away.

  where are these stupid rules that they come up with.

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  moreconfusedthanever

  Wow! Sorry to hear that. Over here in Australia we have the Salvation Army that one can go to if in need of assistance. Is there maybe a similar organization where you are? May be better not to feel like you owe anyone anything and make a clean break.

  Good luck.
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  Wait one minute here!!! Did the GB PURPOSEFULLY launch a D.O.S. attack on Russia? (aka the letter writting campaign)

  by GTSfromSY in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i know this sounds very outlandish by the title but hear this one out:.

  a few months back i spoke to an old friend of mine raised "around the truth", but never baptized and wanting nothing to do with the wt.

  he is very hip to what is going on in the wt however.

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  moreconfusedthanever

  Wow! I remember thinking how stupid it was to tell the world (JWs) to send their letters by the 1st when the hearing was the 5th. For those on the other side of the world the letters wouldn't arrive until after it was all over and therefore pretty pointless but it seems the mindless blind followers didn't bother thinking about this and Instagram and Facebook were full of posts of letters written that would never be read.
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  I am getting disfellowshipped

  by CitizenofEarth in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  maybe some of you remember me, maybe not.

  for general information i am now 19 years old, and living by myself.

  for the past 1 year (more like 1.5 years) i have been quietly fading out of the hypocrisy of this organization, but since i still live in the town i grew up in it has been hard, and filled with different challenges.

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  moreconfusedthanever

  They already said you would get disfellowshiped when they met with you the first time. What is the point of the JC meeting? Just so they can say they followed proper procedure and tick the box on whatever forms go to HQ.

  Like everyone says, going now only gives them the impression that you accept their authority over you. Do you? No and rightly so.

  No need to communicate with them at all, ever. They will disfellowship you anyway.

  Good on you for being a true friend, it is so rare in the religion we grew up in.