Ray was treated so badly and his name dragged through the mud in the entire brotherhood of the JWs. I do not wish that treatment for anyone else so whoever the leak is I hope they can slide out peacefully and remain anonymous.
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Whistleblowers at world headquarters?
by UnshackleTheChains inwith all the leaks coming out of bethel, is it likely we will ever see a high ranking member become a whistleblower and expose watchtower - like that of ray franz'..
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My Personal Atheist Manifesto?
by dubstepped inso, i have a guy that is emailing me after listening to my podcast series "this jw life" about my life story before, during, and after being a jw.
this guy happens to be an elder and pioneer serving where the need is greater.
i love this guy.
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moreconfusedthanever
Thanks for sharing this with us.
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Do any of the 144,000 in heaven take part in the destruction at Armageddon?
by Bonnie_Clyde ini wondered about that when i heard garret loesch state that shortly before the tribulation the governing body would be taken up.
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if this is the case, it seems like garret and the other seven would be there just in time to help out in the killing of billions.. i thought they used to say that some would survive armageddon before they were taken up..
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Wait so when the GB disappear it will be the queue to everyone that the Great Tribulation is about to start?
Hmmmm that sounds like a perfect getaway plan. All the donated funds in bank accounts so they can live out their days all the while the flock believe that they are now living in the great Tribulation and the end is just around the corner.
It used to be that the GB would have some left here to guide the flock through Armageddon. Oh wait. That's what the helpers will be for.
I get it now. The light is getting brighter.
Hahahahaha.
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Publisher ID: leaked video clip 2 of 4
by Fay Dehr in"if you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever.” ― george orwell, 1984 this video is leaked in interest of human dignity; you deserve to know who is keeping personal data and how they plan to expand their nets.
open to your comments... https://youtu.be/xz1arhu0fg0
[videos 1 to 4 leaked as own posts, with specific comments for each video].
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God, if he in fact exists, is the reader of hearts and does not need a data base to find his worshipers nor does he require money because doesn't the bible say he could make the stones cry out?
These men are lying charlatans and dangerous.
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On and off again JW girlfriend
by Crzysin inhello everyone, i have an on and off again ex who is a jw.
each time her family gets involved and she's gone again.
i'm debating biting the bullet and doing the work to become baptized, so we can follow through with our engagement.
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Getting baptised is not a minor formality to progress your relationship. Once you are baptised your life is no longer your own.
My advice is - do not get baptised under any circumstances.
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Why do so many that leave wind up coming back?!
by nowwhat? ini have seen so many that have left.
and their life turned into a dumpster fire.
most do not live the average life of living in suburbs, raising a family.
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The ones that come back are ones that do not know the truth about the truth. They still believe what they were taught.
A friend of mine DAd themselves man years ago. Lived a normal life. Got married etc. Was out for 18 years at least. Her family "spiritual giants" shunned her for 18 years! Now back in she posts things on Facebook about how wonderful and supportive her parents are to her and how unconditional their love is. Ugh!
Just recently I talked to an old friend DFd 10 years ago. Had been an elder. Says he misses it and loved being a JW. He said you can't deny it's the truth!
Unless they are mentally out, there is a good chance they will return.
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What is the strangest book or craziest book the JWs have ever printed?
by blownaway inwhat do you think the crazies or strangest book they ever printed is?.
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My husband and I studied the family book together while we were dating like good spiritual JWs should. Once we were finished we got engaged. Years later when a work mate of mine was having trouble in her marriage, I loaned her my copy and suggested it may be helpful. *Cringe*
She gave it back a week later and said it had absolutely nothing helpful to say.
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6-BOEs-Just Arrived!
by Atlantis in2018-03-31-general data protection regulationhttps://we.tl/z1g1kyveqg2018-04-01-assisting in seldom worked territorieshttps://we.tl/vjspmlzrag2018-announcements and remindershttps://we.tl/hz9omncxib2018-consent for personal datahttps://we.tl/wnlmxqfp7n2018-instructions-for-use-of-personal-datahttps://we.tl/c1ftcszyk22018-oclam-may-7--28--answer sheethttps://we.tl/ieggkojrsyatlantis!.
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moreconfusedthanever
I wonder how many religions ask their flock to sign data consent forms? Becoming more and more business like.
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Roll Call for the benefit of Newbies and Lurkers. In One Sentence tell why you left the Org.
by Wasanelder Once inroll call for the benefit of newbies and lurkers.
in one sentence tell why you left the org.
not 2 sentences.
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The GB cannot prove they are the faithful and discreet slave chosen in 1919 since the IBS at the time believed the FDS was Russell.
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Feeling pressure to attend the Memorial?
by Fay Dehr infeeling pressure to attend the memorial?.
as a former elder i write this response to hopefully help those genuinely feeling “guilt” before their god.
if you are a jehovah’s witness or an “ex-jw” (for example, disfellowshipped or lapsed), then i hope that this will be of help to you.
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moreconfusedthanever
Thank you very much for the research. I too came to the conclusion I do not need to attend based on the Watchtower's own teaching.
My mother, however, does not buy it due to the watchtower last week saying that God will be taking note of who is there and who is not.
She is now shunning me due to my choice to not go.