Nice post!
It’s sad that we refuse to wear another's shoes, yet are not at all reluctant to borrow someone's ideas. Myths and disempowering words and thoughts have invaded our inner engineering.
i was watching a documentary on the massacre at waco the cult by david karesh.
one of the former members that survived, she wasn't at the compound at the time of the fire, said that david had told his followers that they would die being persecuted.
that in the end they would die and then be taken to heaven.
Nice post!
It’s sad that we refuse to wear another's shoes, yet are not at all reluctant to borrow someone's ideas. Myths and disempowering words and thoughts have invaded our inner engineering.
yesterday i had an interesting visitor—my long-time school friend.
we both studied with jws together, and he progressed to dedication and baptism whereas i stopped before the final step and got transferred to another place.
after the routine conversations, he said: “you know how much your family members long to see you take up the truth ….. before it is too late, i would suggest you start tasting jehovah.”.
Situation is similar to Bible. People who read only the Bible, they think that it contains everything. But people who also read apocryphal books, get many precious information which are not in the Bible:
While expounding the meaning of the expression God created man in His image, Ecclesiasticus 15:15 says “If you choose to do good, you can” and you are “able to perform acceptable faithfulness.”
It also contains thoughts like these:
When a gossip is heard, a fool travails with it as a woman in labor of a child, or as an arrow that sticks in a man’s thigh which he desperately wants to throw out.
And in some other apocryphal book I read that he that sins shall offend against his own soul (not against God) because he will reap its bitter consequences sooner or later which will motivate him to love himself avoiding things that lead to bitter consequences. Thus suffering serves a good purpose. If this benefit is not noticed, then suffering would be viewed as a proof for the non-existence of a God who cares—just like silence is the sign of both—one does not have knowledge and one does have knowledge, who waits for appropriate moment to speak out.
yesterday i had an interesting visitor—my long-time school friend.
we both studied with jws together, and he progressed to dedication and baptism whereas i stopped before the final step and got transferred to another place.
after the routine conversations, he said: “you know how much your family members long to see you take up the truth ….. before it is too late, i would suggest you start tasting jehovah.”.
i'm hoping to start a series of posts refuting common, fallacious jw reasoning that they repeat to support their teachings or defend their organization.
in this first installment i will be tackling the common fallacious analogy used by them to equate eating blood with receiving a transfusion.
feel free to share your own refutations on each thread.. "if a doctor tells you to abstain from alcohol you wouldn't go injecting it into your veins, would you?".
Context decides the correct meaning, as Cofty, rightly brought out. But the problem with those who remained in darkness for a long time is that even when they are shown the light, they would still behave like the man in The Tale of Two Cities of Charles Dickens. He had been imprisoned for several long years. At long last, he was set free. Prison authorities led him out of his dark cell into the bright and beautiful sunshine outside. For a moment, he gazed at the blue sky and the bright sun -but his eyes were dazzled. He turned and walked back to his cell, covering his eyes with his hands. He had grown so accustomed to the darkness that he could not face the light any more! The dark cell seemed to him to be a secure haven.
...would you choose to ban the jw religion?.
if you wouldn't ban them what, if any, changes would you force upon them?.
I would not recommend a ban.
Knowing them very well I would like to see them living with their false conviction that all except them are doomed.
in another thread a poster has been in a pitched fight with others about the results from the arc.
trying to explain away the results and minimizing the damages.
what he has failed to understand is that the society had and still does have certain policies in place that hide the sexual abuse of minors.
This shows their sins are more serious than the soldier who pierced Jesus' heart for whom Jesus prayed: "forgive him for he does not know what he is doing."
But here JW leadership knows what they are doing!
yesterday i had an interesting visitor—my long-time school friend.
we both studied with jws together, and he progressed to dedication and baptism whereas i stopped before the final step and got transferred to another place.
after the routine conversations, he said: “you know how much your family members long to see you take up the truth ….. before it is too late, i would suggest you start tasting jehovah.”.
at the meeting today, we were reading the watchtower and this elder apologetically said to such a degree in regards to romans 5:12 that "we humans are not worthy of any mercy from jehovah.
we shouldn't even have free will because we can't possibly do anything good enough to please jehovah.
we don't even deserve life because of sin.
Heraclitus had the overall view, and wrote: “It is not good for people to get all they wish to get. It is sickness that makes health pleasant; evil, good; hunger, plenty; weariness, rest.”
yesterday i had an interesting visitor—my long-time school friend.
we both studied with jws together, and he progressed to dedication and baptism whereas i stopped before the final step and got transferred to another place.
after the routine conversations, he said: “you know how much your family members long to see you take up the truth ….. before it is too late, i would suggest you start tasting jehovah.”.
Phizzy,
You stole the show. What I could not express it perfectly, you did it. Thank you for that--that's what exactly I had in my mind.
yesterday i had an interesting visitor—my long-time school friend.
we both studied with jws together, and he progressed to dedication and baptism whereas i stopped before the final step and got transferred to another place.
after the routine conversations, he said: “you know how much your family members long to see you take up the truth ….. before it is too late, i would suggest you start tasting jehovah.”.
Cofty: What do you mean by "science is the religion of adults"?
An average believer (child) “knows” (not the real knowledge) that what his religion teaches is “The Truth” (in inverted coma)
On the other hand adults know (really know) that what science teaches is The Truth (not in inverted coma).
It is in this “Science is the religion of adults.”