Posts by Zaccheus

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All About The Words We Used

by dubstepped in

in the time since i've left the borg behind i've had a few things hit me as to how words were used.

i'm wondering if anyone else has some similar examples, but here are some things that have made me think:.

watchtower - my whole life i saw this as a thing of protection from outside evil forces, and then when i left someone pointed out "isn't that what they used to keep people in prison".

Zaccheus

We should start a JW GLOSSARY!

Here's a few more entries:

GREAT CROWD. A group of people, numbering into the millions, who will survive the Almighty's wrathful execution of the wicked during Armageddon and live continuously from this world into the 'new world.' (Actually only 0.1% of mankind, so how great is that?)

OTHER SHEEP. Another name for above 'GREAT CROWD,' but specifically applied to those among mankind who are approved for surviving Armageddon, but who are not of the 'heavenly class' of anointed individuals who survive the execution to be transformed into spirit creatures and kings in another realm known as 'heaven.' (Which brings us to. . .)

THE ANOINTED. An exclusive class of people, numbering 144,000, who are preserved for life in heaven as kings and pries who will rule and judge with Jesus Christ for 1,000 years over the earth during its restoration to perfect order under the Kingdom of God. (Which brings us to. . .)

THE NEW EARTH. Formerly known as 'the New Order,' or 'the New System,' this is the Earth restored to its perfect state as pictured in the Book of Genesis's Garden of Eden, where the Kingdom of God will oversee the return of humankind living in balance with nature with complee regulation of authority by Yahweh.

THE NEW HEAVENS. Also known as the Kingdom of God, the governmental structure of heavenly rule over the new earth that (does what exactly?)

Wow, the more I try to define this stuff, the more it sounds like science fiction or fantasy reads.

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Wife is Awake

by freemindfade in

following the news of stuckinarut2, over the past few months my wife has completely mentally woken up.

i've been meaning to post but haven't had the time.

i saw stuckins post and i figured i'd add my news too.

Zaccheus

WOW. I remember the moment my wife woke up. It was a long night of discussion and argument and epiphanies. Now the "real life" begins for you. Best of love

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Janet Jackson before and after pics

by moomanchu in

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friends

guess she is a muslim now, golly.. http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/janet-jackson-spotted-first-time-9106989.

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Zaccheus

Then again, I don't think she was a baptized JW

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Janet Jackson before and after pics

by moomanchu in

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friends

guess she is a muslim now, golly.. http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/janet-jackson-spotted-first-time-9106989.

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Zaccheus

Oh my god that is crazy! I remember when her brother Michael converted to Islam after leaving JWs, but his sister too? What is the attraction?

Well, after that Super Bowl nipple-slip, maybe she just wanted a religion that would allow for no further wardrobe malfunctions!

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A stunning piece of LOGIC from the Apostle Paul

by nicolaou in

1st corinthians 15 12-17. but if it is preached that christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead?

if there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even christ has been raised.

and if christ has not been raised, your faith is futile... .

Zaccheus

I think it's interesting Paul said, "IF the resurrection of Christ is invalid, our faith is futile." It seems he is questioning it. With all of Paul's ranting and raving on the issue, why don't we hear more on the resurrection from James, John or Peter?

It's because Paul was mentally disturbed. "I reply as a madman!" Basing the doctrine of the resurrection upon his words makes no sense.

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Awake! mag on a 60' rock album

by greek in

i found a copy of the awake!

mag.

on a cover of a rock album of 1968, the magazine awake is dated 08/10/1968, and here i put some pictures and a link to youtube.

Zaccheus

Hilarious! They look like two stoners who stay in bed all day who barely made it to the door to answer the Witnesses. The music is pretty good, though!

It reminds me of the shock of seeing the Watchtower in a picture of Huey "Piano" Smith in the original Rolling Stone Encyclopedia of Rock n Roll. Now that brother could play!

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What Were Your Elders Real World Jobs?

by pale.emperor in

we all know that education is severely demonized in this religion.

and that the elders are appointed based on how many meetings they attend, hours they put in on the ministry and general attitude to other elders (as apposed to, you know, actual theological training and counseling) - so my question is, what were your elders occupations outside the kingdom hall?.

in my old congregation our elders consisted of:.

Zaccheus

Elders in 80s and 90s for me:

Retired small factory owner

Retired auto factory supervisor

Car salesman/business owner

Chimney sweep

Window/office cleaner

Utility worker

Auto mechanic

Coal miner

Carpenter

Floor/window cleaner

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Is Christianity contingent on belief in a talking snake?

by cobweb in

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this is a question mainly for those who are christian as i myself am not:.

to what extent is christianity contingent on a belief in the book of genesis.

i know there are some christians who accept that the creation story is a myth, and maybe the adam and eve story too.

Zaccheus

Yes, Hisclarkness has stated the contingency of Christianity. Within the two central laws of Christ lies the foundation: Love God and love your neighbor. NOT a talking snake. Yes, Jesus also talked about that, but in the context of archetypal mythology, as Aha suggests, the Law of Love was understood in the worldview of Hebrew understanding 2000 years ago.

While the archetype of serpent and savior are difficult to nail down, we understand the next chapter of Genesis explains the fall from grace for mankind is somehow tied to the shift in human worldview as pastoral hunter-gatherers were supplanted by a rising agrarian civilization. Abel was considered still close to perfection for offering his prized sheep, but Cain was considered inferior for his offering from the farm.

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Counting time

by Emma in

i may not have put this in the correct spot, but i do think it's scandalous the way time gets counted now.

i've seen a cart at the edge of our farmer's market, never anyone close enough to talk.

yesterday was a drizzly day and there were two carts set up, covered in plastic, "witnessing" on their own.

Zaccheus

I loved it when we worked a distant rural territory, and someone would take us to their in-town territory to knock on a door or two "to start our time." Supposedly we couldn't count our drive time unless we "punched in" with an official ringing of a doorbell.

I always started my time when we pulled out of the KH parking lot.

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Dating J.W small fishpond compared to ocean....who married a loser because of this???

by Witness 007 in

so your a witness and want to get married or jehovah forbid remarried.

welcome to the pond of losers you can chose from!!!

who struck out in the marriage department..

Zaccheus

I married my best friend pretty much. Not exactly a loser, but we were both unprepared for life in the real world and we had problems from the beginning. Also, if we had been allowed to have a normal sexual relationship before marriage, we probably would not have rushed in so young, had opportunities to date others, and may have realized we were better as friends instead of marriage mates.