Posts by Scully

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"Inactive" non Attenders, how much power do the JW's have over YOU ?

by Phizzy in

i was thinking about this because of the constant reminders we get in posts that we inactive non attenders have to be careful what we say to jw's, and what we do that they may learn about etc, if we don't wish to be before a j.c. the power they have is limited by what we give them.

now, i do not wish to be declared df'd of da'd, it would kill my old mum i think.. but i refuse to live my life looking over my shoulder, that, in my opinion, is giving them too much power.. i openly vote, i openly donate blood, i enjoy the odd cigar etc etc.. how much power do you allow them to have over you ?.

Scully

In person, I keep myself in check around JW relatives, until they start sending out subtle and not-so-subtle comments that would be the equivalent of Preaching™.

Like my mother recently made a jab about how the RC explained that "evolution couldn't possibly be true, because creatures would have had to evolve into males and females in order to reproduce". Yes, they seriously said that.

So I just said, "When the doctor tells you to take a full course of antibiotics so as not to contribute to the bacteria becoming antibiotic resistant, do you listen? If you do, then you accept this aspect of evolution."

Then she talks about the weather.

LOL

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I'm just a 'visitor'

by galaxie in

i'm signed in and can use the 'have your say 'box on my android phone,but on my tablet i cannot sign in...the sign in form does not recognize my user name, therefore i'm seen as just a visitor.

any advice would be welcome thankyou..

Scully

If my android tablet browser is anything like yours, you have to use the drop-down menu in the top right corner and select the login option from there. The forum doesn't keep you logged in across devices, you need to login from each one and select the Remember Me button.

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Elders and Attendants sing, clap and turn backs on Street Preacher after Duluth RC.

by ToesUp in

very strange behavior by the attendants and elders after the duluth, ga, rc.

on the first link the attendants start to exit the arena, then line up and turn their backs on the street preachers.

(around the 6:00 mark).. elders and attendants after duluth rc.

Scully

That's more enthusiastic singing than what I've ever heard in a KH or convention.

I guess it has to do with the hate that's going on...

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What will Tony say?

by konceptual99 in

genuine picture from a convention in holland.

what will tony say?!.

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Scully

He could be Don Cherry's Dutch cousin...

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The glaring inequity between the 144,000 & the Great Crowd

by deegee in

there is a glaring inequity between the 144,000 & the great crowd (gc):.

the gc will experience:.

1. the great tribulation - a gruelling/horrifying time which has never occurred before.. 2. armageddon.. 3. a thousand years of “loving” molding and refinement.. 4. a second armageddon at the end of the thousand years.. the 144,000 will experience none of these things.. isn't it strange that the gc has to prove themself so much but the 144,000 don't???!!!

Scully

Don't forget that the GC is also the clean up crew after surviving Armageddon(tm). This is despite the fact that Jehovah(tm) created the worldwide disaster area, and even has the ability to snap his fingers and clean up his own damned mess and doesn't.

Seems like the GC gets the short end of the stick in more ways than one.

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Can someone help me

by stephanie61092 in

jw
friends

a girl i've known my entire life who supported me from a distance after i was disfellowshipped sent me this message on instagram today: .

let me know when your back... i'm unfollowing you on ig & snap.

i love you.

Scully

It's called "emotional blackmail" and it is endorsed and promoted by the WTS.

They give talks at Conventions(tm) demanding Loyalty(tm) to the Organization(tm) over family ties and friendships. And then people start receiving messages like the one you did, drawing a line in the sand: "We can't have a relationship because you aren't a JW / don't go to Meetings(tm)/ are Inactive(tm)." In order to restore the relationship you are expected to return to the JWs.

It's noteworthy that this type of manipulation is a hallmark ofemotional abuse. Is that the kind of friendship you want?

Your friend just did you a huge favour. If you feel the need to reply, just tell her "Thank you for showing me what an emotionally abusive, manipulative 'friend' you really are. Take your emotional blackmail and stick it where the sun doesn't shine."

Good riddance.

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Can an atheist date jw?

by concernCitizen in

hey everyone!.

first of all, i'm not a jw, in fact i'm an atheist, or if you really want to be technical about it i'm probably something like an agnostic atheist or something.. but, my girlfriend is a jw, she seems very rational about it though, it seems to me that she believes in a lot of it but not exactly all, for instance she does understands and believes in the scientific age of the earth and evolution.. when we started dating almost a year ago she made it clear she as religious person.

i never saw that as a problem, it's not like i'm trying to convert her or she's trying to convert me.

Scully

An atheist can date whomever they like who is agreeable to dating an atheist. JWs, not so much.

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Today's Text - Sacrifice To God!

by Divergent in

jw
friends

sunday, august 14. if she cannot afford a sheep, she must then take two turtledoves or two young pigeons.—lev.

12:8.. according to the mosaic law, the israelites were to offer specific sacrifices.

(lev.

Scully

If she cannot afford a sheep, she must then take two turtledoves or two young pigeons

This just occurred to me: How many JWs find that going to conventions or going Door-to-Door™ or Meetings™ take away from opportunities to build a better life/future for themselves? How many would love to get a better education so they can provide for their families more easily? How many have no retirement savings?

With this scripture in mind, it seems to be acceptable (to Jehovah™, at least) to give Him™ an item of lower value in presenting your sacrifice if you "cannot afford a sheep". This means you have a choice in how much of an offering you give. The ability to "afford" something is subjective. It means that you can have priorities other than whatever you intend to Sacrifice™ to Jehovah™.

Do you need to work extra shifts so you can save for your vacation or education? Does it mean you have to skip a few Meetings™ to do so?

Do you want to put away some money from each pay to save for your retirement? Does it mean there is less to put in the Contribution Box™?

The WTS wants you to think that you shouldn't have priorities other than Preaching™ Door-to-Door™, going to Meetings™ and Conventions™, and putting your hard earned cash in the Contribution Box™. But it's all a choice. You can do/give what you can "afford", once all your other priorities are met.

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Do a person need a college education to be a good JW

by Santa in

yea i know it's not required or anything, but a lot of the people in the congregation are clearly in need of help that the elders can not give them and none of the other members seem to want to help.

so is it wrong for a person to want to get advanced social and medical training skills to help those in need?.

Scully

In JW-land, an education is considered to be a complete waste of time, as is helping people (other than JWs, naturally) with practical matters like health care and social services. This is because (a) Armageddon™ is Just Around The Corner™, (b) your skills will have no value in The New System™ as Armageddon Survivors™ will have no social service or health care issues, and (c) your time would be much better spent Pioneering™ and helping people become JWs so they can Live Forever In Paradise On Earth™.

What they don't tell you is that education is the key that will unlock so many doors for you. Your job opportunities multiply. Your mind will expand as you learn about diverse populations and cultures. You will learn to use your critical thinking ability. All of these things are real threats to your continued allegiance to the JWs.

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Tips on how to raise money

by Holden Caufield in

i need some ideas to raise money for my study research trip for west africa in cape coast ghana..

Scully

Try a student loan, then.

I used it to finance my college education, and it took a long ass time to pay it off, but it is paid in full.