Nathan,
Have you checked any 2nd hand book stores in your area? Almost every time I visit one locally, I find some form of WT printed material in the "spirituality" section.
Posts by Scully
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40The Watchtower Tract Society doesn't print Bibles?
by Nathan Natas inafter reading a few comments here, i thought it was time for me to get a copy of "the silver sword" for my own occasional research and occult practices.
so i thought i would see if jw.org would offer a way that i could purchase a printed copy (not digital) of the new world translation.
as i browsed, it occurred to me that i might also like to have a copy of the... what was it?
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Funeral Fashion
by ThinkerBelle ini have a funeral to attend for a non jw family member and the jdub family member reminded me that i should not wear black.
for the life of me, i can't recall where this belief came from in jw teachings and i'm born in.
is there something in print or is that just a personal opinion belief?
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Scully
But black is so slimming, especially when paired with black hosiery and underwear!
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When did jws start viewing the "worldly" as bad associates?
by nowawake14 inany of you that had been in the organization for decades are welcome to answer.
really, who started this craziness?.
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Scully
My parents became JWs in the early 70s. It was drilled into me to avoid getting close to Worldly People™, and to only have Friends™ In The Truth™. Because of our lack of JW pedigree (2nd or 3rd generation), we weren't readily accepted by those who were Born In™ or had a decades-long history with the cult. It seemed like we were always inviting people over for dinner or driving people around for Service™ or a to do shit jobs around the KH that nobody else wanted, and it was very rarely reciprocated. It was like we had to go through some kind of probationary period - for how long was anyone's guess.
It was a very isolating, and it's no wonder I suffered from depression and anxiety from all these emotional rollercoaster rides.
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26 Years Later
by Victor ini'm one of earliest adopters of the internet in discovering the real history of the watchtower.
back then it was the wild wild west with newsgroups being the primary sources of information.
then came watchtower observer, freeminds, and all the other sites that followed jwd was one of the later sites.
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Scully
Hi Victor
I remember you from the Philia email group, which I joined in 1993. Nice to see you’re still around.
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We owe our children honesty, integrity, and the TTATT.
by Fognomore inin my waking up i have come to a very emotional and costly conclusion.
i have been waking up for about 2 years.
the greatest gift we ( i ) can give our children is honesty and ttatt.
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Scully
Those were precisely the same emotions Mr Scully and I went through when we were in the process of leaving the JW belief system.
The clincher for us was reading in the Aid Book™ and the Insight™ volumes under the definition of the word LIE.
It said words to the effect that "it is not necessary to tell the truth to individuals who are not entitled to it." Think about that for a minute. Who are they saying is "not entitled to" truthful information? The average JW thinks about opposers who want to incriminate them or the Organization™. But clearly, it could also refer to the GB withholding honesty from average JWs. We had noticed, multiple times in fact, where the Publications™ conflicted with one another (flip flops like who among those who were killed at Sodom and Gomorrah would be Resurrected™; or wholesale rejection of higher education, then allowing for it, then rejecting it again; saying Armageddon™ was Just Around the Corner™ for exactly how many decades now?).This plus so many other things made it abundantly clear that JWs were not purveyors of The Truth™, they never were and they never would be.
We were humble with our eldest, who was old enough to understand the ramifications of leaving. We told him that we had been fooled by people who didn't have our best interests at heart, and that we were going to start making our own decisions instead of allowing the JWs to influence us. It was a great feeling to let go, and get out as a family.
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If you are reading this Courtney and Helene
by newsheep inplease please contact us by private messaging us.
we didn't know what to put this under so sorry in advance but this is why we are here.
courtney was a co serving in another country when his father was dying.
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Scully
CO now refers to Congregation Overseer™ *and* Circuit Overseer™.
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If you are reading this Courtney and Helene
by newsheep inplease please contact us by private messaging us.
we didn't know what to put this under so sorry in advance but this is why we are here.
courtney was a co serving in another country when his father was dying.
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Scully
http://www.lifenews.ca/announcement/9030053-clarke-clarence-levy
Perhaps reach out to the family through the guest book or comments?
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Our daughter was free to make her own choice.
by StephaneLaliberte inwhen eloise dupuis gave birth to her son in 2016, there were complications where a blood transfusion would have saved her live.
however, she refused and died; to the horror of the medical staff and the entire province of quebec.. two years later, there was a change in politics and the topic came back up in the media.
the parents of eloise dupuis, obviously exhausted by the media coverage, wrote a comment to a well known news paper in quebec.
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Scully
With the Blood Issue, in a hospital life-and-death situation, keep in mind that the HLC arranges to maintain a constant JW presence at the bedside of the person deemed in need of blood transfusion.
Had Elöise agreed to a transfusion that could have saved her life, the JWs at her bedside would have initiated the judicial proceedings without delay. How terrifying it must have been for her, knowing she would certainly die without transfusions, with people actively discouraging her from doing the one thing that could have prevented her death, praying for her to maintain her integrity, watching her weep for the fact that she would be leaving her child motherless and holding her newborn son for the time that remained for her.
The fact that the WT needs “enforcers” to hold vigil at a person’s bedside to make sure they don’t take a transfusion, tells me that without these “enforcers” JWs would, more often than not, accept transfusions to save their life. That’s the reason why it is a coercive tactic.
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Our daughter was free to make her own choice.
by StephaneLaliberte inwhen eloise dupuis gave birth to her son in 2016, there were complications where a blood transfusion would have saved her live.
however, she refused and died; to the horror of the medical staff and the entire province of quebec.. two years later, there was a change in politics and the topic came back up in the media.
the parents of eloise dupuis, obviously exhausted by the media coverage, wrote a comment to a well known news paper in quebec.
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Scully
A choice made by someone who has a gun pointed in their face isn't a free choice, nor is it necessarily the choice that is in the best interests of the individual.
With the WT, the Choice™ being made is, first of all, based on an incorrect premise. Obedience to God's Law on Blood™ is based on someone's interpretation of a biblical text allegedly uttered over 2000 years ago, which interpretation is also based on that someone's claim (a statement without proof to back up its authenticity) that they are guided by Holy Spirit™ to have an accurate understanding of God's™ intentions.
The other issue regarding this Choice™, is that there is a consequence for the individual should their "free choice" be the wrong one in the eyes of the WT. There was a time when WT published the Suggestion™ that Disfellowshipped™ people should be regarded as "dead to us". This threat is Inculcated™ into JWs from infancy if they are "born in" as Eloise was, and being part of an insular group like the JWs, the flow of contradictory information is severely hindered. The WT and likewise her JW family were the gatekeepers, preventing alternate points of view from entering her thought process and training her to reject those alternate points of view.
We've all heard (or maybe even said ourselves) "I'd rather die than [insert unpleasant or repugnant something]." For JWs, that phrase becomes "I'd rather die than be DFd and treated like I'm dead / be killed by Jehovah at Armageddon™ / lose all my friends and family / feel ashamed for being Unfaithful™; at least if I die, I will be Resurrected™." That's the gun, with a carrot attached. She had the choice to pull the trigger herself, or everyone around her would have pulled it for her. What kind of a choice is that? The carrot of the belief in a future Resurrection™ is more powerful to JWs than the carrot of being able to live to see your newborn child grow up. That's actually pretty fucked up.
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Scully
There is the option (at least in Canada) to have medical marijuana in pill form. It’s prescribed under the brand name Nabilone.
It doesn’t contain THC, the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana, but does contain cannabinoids.
So there, you lose, WT. It’s legal in Canada. It doesn’t need to be smoked. It doesn’t make people high. And it’s a life saver for people suffering with chronic pain. If only it helped people to walk away from your petty little cult.