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  1914 a doctrinal lie that created an entire religion the Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  when you think about it the jws was foundationaly created upon a single core doctrine which was created close to a 100 years ago, that is the doctrinal year of 1914 .. the leader(s) of the ibsa in 1919 proclaimed that jehovah had selectively chosen them or him as it were by j. rutherford, they also self identified themselves as the anointed class the faithful slave.. from all of these expressive endeavors a new religion sprung up eventually calling themselves the jehovah's witnesses.

  years and decades followed where more and more people were lured into the faith making themselves subservient devoted members as well, some also identifying themselves as the anointed class.

  the jws proclaimed through their leaders (gb) that they were true loyal witnesses to jehovah's will and purpose, but were they really ?

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  waton

  a3: if I remember right, wt writers use the parable of the sheep & goats to pronounce themselfs, or the "anointed" as the only "christ's brothers"

  Their's alone is the burden to preach the kingdom good news of 1914.

  They twist this scripture to mean publisher/pioneer hours to be the humanitarian help that merits life for the [other] sheep.

  wt does not recognize all the members of the 12 tribes of Israel [of god]*** as jehovah's witnesses but only the 144000 that are sealed out of them according to Rev. 7.

  *** "You are my witnesses oh Israel" Isaiah

  wt is wrong here, because if the anointed come out of the total tribe membership, the tribes must comprise more members, just as Israel was greater than just the priests and kings.
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  Anthony Morris depicts ex-members as ''Despicable Apostates''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here is one of the many commandments jesus instructed his twelve apostles to keep, follow, and obey!.

  here is anthony morris ( supposedly selected by jehovah to keep, follow and obey the sayings of jesus ) name-calling and condemning enemies!

  the pharisees used to label people as well.

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  waton

  Can we give that dog a medal?? DD

  no, but if the owner uses handy paper to clean up the mess, ---
  
  
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  Sin came into the world - not true?

  by menrov in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  matt 5:27 “you have heard that it was said, ‘do not commit adultery.’ 28 but i say to you that whoever looks at a woman to desire her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.. this means that even before someone commits an act that is considered a sin or wrong but does think about it, that person actually already committed that sin or trespassing.. now read this:.

  rom.

  5:12 so then, just as sin entered the world through one man and death through sin, and so death spread to all people because all sinned— 13 for before the law was given, sin was in the world, but there is no accounting for sin when there is no law.. this means that there was already sin in the world before adam and eve actually ate the fruit.

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  waton

  OTWO, adultery is treason it destroys families, it takes a terrible toll on children it is a sin, it cuts a-sunder , creates a "sound" like in "Puget sound" , a separation.

  Now in evolution, adultery might produce a Kenian sowing his wild oats abroad and the target family nurture a presiding overseer. A adulterous mother might raise both a sprinter and a marathon champion, as half brothers. but if you want family, society peace and a safer pace. believe me,

  adultery is a sin. a breach of contract with all parties involved.
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  1914 a doctrinal lie that created an entire religion the Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  when you think about it the jws was foundationaly created upon a single core doctrine which was created close to a 100 years ago, that is the doctrinal year of 1914 .. the leader(s) of the ibsa in 1919 proclaimed that jehovah had selectively chosen them or him as it were by j. rutherford, they also self identified themselves as the anointed class the faithful slave.. from all of these expressive endeavors a new religion sprung up eventually calling themselves the jehovah's witnesses.

  years and decades followed where more and more people were lured into the faith making themselves subservient devoted members as well, some also identifying themselves as the anointed class.

  the jws proclaimed through their leaders (gb) that they were true loyal witnesses to jehovah's will and purpose, but were they really ?

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  waton

  1919? listened to by a german: nein tien nein tien.

  on record for 1919: german cabinet maker shop making signs: "--millionen werden nie sterben"

  proclaimer book page 426.

  if god selected them, then, really? , it must have been to show what false prophets looks like.

  a double whammy, 1) pretending to speak for god, and 2) predicting what even by their doctrines did not, can not come true.
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  Anthony Morris depicts ex-members as ''Despicable Apostates''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here is one of the many commandments jesus instructed his twelve apostles to keep, follow, and obey!.

  here is anthony morris ( supposedly selected by jehovah to keep, follow and obey the sayings of jesus ) name-calling and condemning enemies!

  the pharisees used to label people as well.

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  waton

  "---dedicated their life to god---"

  Tony and Co. inc is confusing himself with the creator of the universe.

  Not dedicated to wt inc. sir.
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  Manuel germany

  by Marcial in

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  2. friends

  hello to all of you and especially to atlantis and petra without whom we would be helpless in the face of the powerful and destructive sector that concerns us.

  atlantis would you please send me the latest october 2020 manual in german language?

  thank you.sincerely to all of you marcial

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  waton

  
  

  Atlantis13 hours ago
  waton:
  You might be right!

  I will turn that around and say: "right is might", and thank you for making sure we are getting it right ( from the source.)
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  Manuel germany

  by Marcial in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello to all of you and especially to atlantis and petra without whom we would be helpless in the face of the powerful and destructive sector that concerns us.

  atlantis would you please send me the latest october 2020 manual in german language?

  thank you.sincerely to all of you marcial

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  waton

  I cant imagine what it would do to a brain to have the already stilted correct wt speak imposed on you in that exacting language. Would not Bretzel be a fitting expression?
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  the bible god can not lie, but promotes lying prophets, today's wt study

  by waton in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  study 32, par 7 , cites 1 king 19-22 to prove that "jehovah" humbly asks angels their opinion.

  -- not true, in effect.

  the request was: who is going to go forth and lie for us, give a false prophecy?

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  waton

  --the two wills of God,-- as God's ways are not our ways--

  JB: it is good to discuss the bible as a literary work, as we do Shakespeare or Goethe or Voltaire in school. I believe bible writing was human's best attempt to fashion a person/creator, his dealings according to their knowledge at the time.

  A being that fashioned this immense universe, is uncreated, always existed and always will, is so beyond our mental capacity, that subjecting him, or our imagined image of him to psycho ananlisis is no more than discussing the above authors, or their writings.

  The works of creation speak for themselves. Many here are probably theists, deists, --atheist only in protest. afier thought:

  atheist are like wt, they dare god to show himself through his displeasure with them.
  
  
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  The Worst doctrine of JWs- Ressurection and Paradise

  by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  besides the facts that one needs to take numerous verses from the ot and nt and smash them together to make this theology (which works out to a modern day zorastriaism) the whole concept is realy horrific.. first it teachs that your life is worthless and should be exploited until the next one in paradise/or heaven.

  second it teachs that you dead loved ones are still around either in heaven or jeblooper's memory.

  so don't greive.

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  waton

  wt is lying. their pictures show hand-hewn mansions on acre lots, all lakeside. with mountain views. With tens billions resurrected. this can never happen. May be after 99.9% of the population that is "in the four corners " of the New Earth, after the 1000 years, will be killed, again, the 3rd time,--- perhaps. but everlasting life here? , impossible. the sun/earth is already half way through their life cycle. will have to resurrect them too when they die.

  wt is depreciating the value of life now, the only one we know ro exist. If we do not use it well, waste it on illusions, why would that qualify us for another better try?
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  the bible god can not lie, but promotes lying prophets, today's wt study

  by waton in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  study 32, par 7 , cites 1 king 19-22 to prove that "jehovah" humbly asks angels their opinion.

  -- not true, in effect.

  the request was: who is going to go forth and lie for us, give a false prophecy?

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  waton

  We, who can not stand to "prepare for the meetings" any more

  miss blondie, who gave us advance notice to pick up wt craftiness in these "studies".

  suffering through the zoom ruminations is bad enough. but revealing imHo