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  1 Kings 8:21 a woman's perspective.

  by waton in

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  this week's bible stories, temple dedication, key text .

  prayer to the father; "-- [even] the heavens of the heavens cannot contain you.--" comment from a sister i missed, would have given if permitted: .

  given that jehovah was alone, with absolutely nothing else around him, when he made the heavens,(including his firstborn), fashioned the universe, it could have only be inside him, with no outside existing.

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  waton

  Does the Bible really specify that God existed in abject nothingness until he decided to begin creating?

  TonusOH It does not, as far as I know, but given that scripture is 150% wrong about the creation event, I was looking beyond that, could have classed the thread under "humour".

  We can extrapolate from our conditions here, that energy is uncreated , indestructible, eternal, and so is time. Therefore these two "entities must have coexisted with the creat-or/ trice. call it in "timespace" or "energytime."

  biblically speaking, since Jesus is the firstborn of all creation, the Original creator and the Son must have made the universe between them , literally, locally, in the zero gravity area between 2 entities.

  Given the immensity of the work we live in, all these bible based analogies seem to be totally inadequate to give it due esteem. imho.

  
  
  
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  1 Kings 8:21 a woman's perspective.

  by waton in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this week's bible stories, temple dedication, key text .

  prayer to the father; "-- [even] the heavens of the heavens cannot contain you.--" comment from a sister i missed, would have given if permitted: .

  given that jehovah was alone, with absolutely nothing else around him, when he made the heavens,(including his firstborn), fashioned the universe, it could have only be inside him, with no outside existing.

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  waton

  There is no "inside" for an alternative dimension.

  neat blue dog

  wrong, dimensions are all for inside. we, with our universe are inside spacetime. The possible mother father is not. but there was eternal energy and timespace.

  Our universe started at a point in timespace. it is an inside job. at least at that point, the outside realm was infinitely larger, older. still is out there, and we are expanding into it.

  long live motherhood." thanks heaven for little girls "
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  NASA: Humans Back to the Moon

  by Gerard in

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  nasa plans return to moon by 2020

  "this vision aims to return humans to the moon, and then to use it as a staging point for a manned mission to mars.

  i wonder if jws will be required to canvas those areas too.

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  waton

  In the meantime, E. Musk is running tests and probably trying to figure out what payload could be gathered to fill the 250 cubic meters cavernous cavity of his starship. (you could actually get space sick in the assembly building)

  of course everyone has his favoured load to get off their backs and sent to H. . so

  nasa's measly 9 cubic meters interior volume will not do.

  PS, make it a giant garden, with palms, bamboos, Hibiscus, Figs, Vines for wines, to break the dreadful scenes in the monster machines that astronauts have to live in. park one near the space stations for Rest and Recreation.
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  1 Kings 8:21 a woman's perspective.

  by waton in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this week's bible stories, temple dedication, key text .

  prayer to the father; "-- [even] the heavens of the heavens cannot contain you.--" comment from a sister i missed, would have given if permitted: .

  given that jehovah was alone, with absolutely nothing else around him, when he made the heavens,(including his firstborn), fashioned the universe, it could have only be inside him, with no outside existing.

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  waton

  This week's bible stories, temple dedication, key text . prayer to the Father; "-- [even] the heavens of the heavens cannot contain you.--" COMMENT FROM A SISTER I MISSED, WOULD HAVE GIVEN IF PERMITTED:

  Given that Jehovah was alone, with absolutely nothing else around him, when he made the heavens,(including his firstborn), fashioned the universe, it could have only be inside him, with no outside existing. . He could contain the universe, but not the other way around. so

  that is a perfect description of the quintessential mother, creating a new entity, life inside her. so, the Lord's prayer is wrong too, " Our mother, who is not in Heaven, but outside above it all . The "our mother" perfect prayer for catholics.
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  Gorbatchev

  by Gorb in

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  the real gorby has died today.

  he was my inspiration for change, with perestroika and glasnost.. that is why i chose the name gorby at jwn.. see the man at the background.

  he was there also.. g..

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  waton

  If you tried to find a bible parallel to him, you would have to pick Joseph. A man of integrity, who told it like it is, got his people out of a pickle, not really appreciated by his own, ,

  they, like wt thinkers prefer the Davids of this world, conquerors, womanizers. war criminals.
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  My Prediction Regarding New Space Telescope That Will See Back to 100 Million Years From the Big Bang

  by Sea Breeze in

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  2. beliefs

  a new space telescope launched a few days age that will supposedly be able to see to within 100 million years of the big bang.

  wow... only 100 million years from the big bang.

  that is pretty early given the 12 billion year age of the universe assigned by scholars who adhere to naturalism.

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  waton

  Gen 1:1, that SB is supporting here is of course wrong, as is much of the bible.

  The solar system, and planets endowed with a reach load of all kinds of elements, was not created in the Big Beginning, but 10 billion years later, through the outworkings of the laws of this particular universe.

  The JW telescope has so far not yielded any clear images of 14 billion year old planets and stars. only smudges at 12. , but a clear infrared picture of Jupiter though, a tremendous 40 minutes old ?away.
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  Gorbatchev

  by Gorb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the real gorby has died today.

  he was my inspiration for change, with perestroika and glasnost.. that is why i chose the name gorby at jwn.. see the man at the background.

  he was there also.. g..

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  waton

  A man that wanted to avert a war at all cost, because at the same age as I, he had seen it. A happily married man too, with a truly beautiful wife.

  he had peace in his time. too bad, his successors would not build on t his foundation.
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  Who really is the faithful and discreet slave?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  “who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?” — math 24:45. according to jw, the faithful and discreet slave are the “anointed” men of the “governing body” of the jehovah’s witnesses religion..

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  waton

  after all, it is a question, not an answer, or confirmation.
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  What other alternatives for the meaning of Babylon the Great ?

  by enoughisenough in

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  2. beliefs

  i thought the reasoning sound as to the wt explaination of babylon the great, ( world empire of false religion ) but have any of you knowledge of other plausible explainations?

  or knowledge of other sources that are in agreement with wt?

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  waton

  All the nations around old babylon, from Algeria, Uzbekistan tp Indonesia. truly great, a billion+, spread in all directions. but

  Has fallen? had a fall ?

  Even as bethelites , and -heavies could see the twin towers falling, collapsing, , brought down by those nationals, it must have dawned on them that babylon has not have a fall in 1918, when the "captives" were released.
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  Senior JW member in Australia charged with sex crimes and torture

  by Nathan Natas in

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  2. child-abuse

  see: https://7news.com.au/news/crime/senior-jehovahs-witnesses-member-charged-with-rape-torture-and-assault-of-teenage-boys-c-8044666.

  "senior jehovah’s witnesses member charged with rape, torture and assault of teenage boys...".

  the 61 year-old man "faces 21 counts of rape, 17 counts of sexual assault, 13 counts of procuring sexual acts by false pretence and one count each of incest, torture and common assault.".

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  waton

  Every time they reinstate a disfellowshipped member they bring a felon, convicted criminal back among the innocents.

  Criminals with prior conviction of brazenly breaking "divine" law.

  " You have to forgive 7X70 times". ( hidden message, message dont be stupid, there will be no end to the mess) if you do.