earthly!)
all partakers at the last supper had an earthly hope, technically even Jesus, the second Adam, up until 40 days after his death. Acts 1:7, "establish kingdom [of Israel] now?"
Posts by waton
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9JW.org missing the point of the last supper
by neat blue dog inof course most christians partake in different ways at different intervals (the bible never says strictly annual) but obviously the main point is christ's flesh and blood.
for jws the main attraction is the organization's sales pitch and in the new 2023 memorial invitation they pretty much admit it, quote:.
the main feature of the memorial is a talk.
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waton
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JW.org missing the point of the last supper
by neat blue dog inof course most christians partake in different ways at different intervals (the bible never says strictly annual) but obviously the main point is christ's flesh and blood.
for jws the main attraction is the organization's sales pitch and in the new 2023 memorial invitation they pretty much admit it, quote:.
the main feature of the memorial is a talk.
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waton
a talk in which wt turns the "blood of the new covenant, for forgiveness of sin" for many" to
the emblem of the '1914 kingdom' covenant for the very few.
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Is it Logical To Beleive In A Creator - GOD ? In This Scientific Age ?
by smiddy3 ini don`t think so .
hasn`t science ,astronomy ,time , .....proven it an illogical beleif ?.
with the information about this solar system and it`s planets ,other stars and their planets that we have information about ,and the fact that no god has ever revealed him/her self in any shape or form 'there is no evidence that a creator / god has ever existed.. except in the minds of humans who want to control a section of humanity .. the fact that religions rely on "you have to have faith" to beleive in a god ,surely is a cop out.. i look forward to your comments .. and a happy new year to you all..
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waton
Logically though either the universe existed eternally or God existed eternally
wrong choice! the universe did not exist eternally, uncreated energy available to the creator is eternal though.
Now given the universe and then taking it away and creating a void for example to illustrate a condition without the universe, that is not logical
removing the universe would free the portion of energy locked up presently in spacetime & matter and return it to its pristine, pre-big -bang form, akin to the heat death of the universe. recycling the energy.
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Is it Logical To Beleive In A Creator - GOD ? In This Scientific Age ?
by smiddy3 ini don`t think so .
hasn`t science ,astronomy ,time , .....proven it an illogical beleif ?.
with the information about this solar system and it`s planets ,other stars and their planets that we have information about ,and the fact that no god has ever revealed him/her self in any shape or form 'there is no evidence that a creator / god has ever existed.. except in the minds of humans who want to control a section of humanity .. the fact that religions rely on "you have to have faith" to beleive in a god ,surely is a cop out.. i look forward to your comments .. and a happy new year to you all..
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waton
That can also be said about the physical ,material universe , is that not also true ?
not true.
we have measured the effect that energy can not be destroyed, or created, is eternal, therefore time is eternal, but
the present local form of energy as matter, in a 3 dimensional space is not.
soon it might be coffee time, but spacetime is only 13.8 billion years old. time itself, energy uncreated.
Evidence of a, the creator is a personal quest, will be given on a personal level, second hand "witnessing" will not be needed, counted, believed.
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Is it Logical To Beleive In A Creator - GOD ? In This Scientific Age ?
by smiddy3 ini don`t think so .
hasn`t science ,astronomy ,time , .....proven it an illogical beleif ?.
with the information about this solar system and it`s planets ,other stars and their planets that we have information about ,and the fact that no god has ever revealed him/her self in any shape or form 'there is no evidence that a creator / god has ever existed.. except in the minds of humans who want to control a section of humanity .. the fact that religions rely on "you have to have faith" to beleive in a god ,surely is a cop out.. i look forward to your comments .. and a happy new year to you all..
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waton
reading Lawrence M. Krauss (an atheist) called A Universe from Nothing: Why There Is Something Rather than Nothing,
Highly recommended reading, for the final analysis, resume' is:
There is no such thing as nothing. never was.
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Is it Logical To Beleive In A Creator - GOD ? In This Scientific Age ?
by smiddy3 ini don`t think so .
hasn`t science ,astronomy ,time , .....proven it an illogical beleif ?.
with the information about this solar system and it`s planets ,other stars and their planets that we have information about ,and the fact that no god has ever revealed him/her self in any shape or form 'there is no evidence that a creator / god has ever existed.. except in the minds of humans who want to control a section of humanity .. the fact that religions rely on "you have to have faith" to beleive in a god ,surely is a cop out.. i look forward to your comments .. and a happy new year to you all..
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waton
There is a lot of disrespect, disdain, ridicule for people that do actual work. There is tremendous energy, work locked up in creation. just because we are discovering the expanding gaps in our knowledge, find out how how things work, naturally, does not mean it was not work in the first place.
"by their works you will know them" . ( using the new neutral pronoun craze to describe the supposed father figure)
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Is it Logical To Beleive In A Creator - GOD ? In This Scientific Age ?
by smiddy3 ini don`t think so .
hasn`t science ,astronomy ,time , .....proven it an illogical beleif ?.
with the information about this solar system and it`s planets ,other stars and their planets that we have information about ,and the fact that no god has ever revealed him/her self in any shape or form 'there is no evidence that a creator / god has ever existed.. except in the minds of humans who want to control a section of humanity .. the fact that religions rely on "you have to have faith" to beleive in a god ,surely is a cop out.. i look forward to your comments .. and a happy new year to you all..
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waton
Solar System and it`s Planets i.m.h.o., the solar system is a non biblical message from a possible creator.
take the 10s: the number of our digits. Brought to the simplest ratios, the planetary orbits* give our planet the number 10 .
In 1/10 AU,: from Mercury to Pluto: Mercury 4, Venus 7,+3 = Earth10, +6 = Mars 16,+12 = Asteroids 28 +24= Jupiter 52, +48 = Saturn 100, +96 = Uranus 196 neptune
292, + 192 = Pluto 388. ( minim .3 AU maximum 9.6 Au. doubling of orbit diameter spacings. , and:Earth orbit diameter: 1000 seconds.
surface gravity: 10 msc^2
orbit velocity: 1/10 000 of "c" * the speed of light the max universal speed limit
ratio of moon and earth rotation: 1:100*
atmospheric pressure: 10 meters of water. and
the ha ha factoid: Noah's flood: 10meters rain per hour. makes you cry., watery eyes
All this, and life itself could have seemingly created itself, prompted by the eternal energy and laws given to the universe. No hands- on -work needed, as I.Newton thought.Creation, a creator is beyond what we can think. The bible and it's religions present but a caricature of the immense work we live in.
* independent of what units of measure used.
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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?
by Godlyman inif anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
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waton
Is it the reading out loud of the scriptures to others? Is the food literal food which is fed to people hungry for literal food to feed their literal tummies?
Jesus did both, so do some charities.
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Happy New Year!
by Vanderhoven7 inmay 2023 bring you happiness health and love!.
what are you thinking will happen in 2023....positive or otherwise?.
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waton
Lucky us, to be on this planet that takes ~31 500 000 seconds to get back to the same relative position to it's star. of the past/in the future. When the sun was heavier, it might have been 31 415 926 seconds in a year, --perfect,
If the number sequence seems familiar to you, -- it is,-- from family, the father, the universal constant, Pi
Our speed to get forward to January 1, 2024 is 30 km/sec. 1/ 10 000 the speed of light. oh, what flight.
clearly this is a set up, a heavenly have a good year message.
wt's forbidding personal yearly festivities/ wishes: wee.
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drinking wine in the Kingdom
by enoughisenough insomething jumped out at me that i never paid attention to while reading further into matt 26...in vs 28, he tells them his blood is to be poured out for the many for forgiveness of sin.
but note vs 29 but i say to you: i will no menas drink again any of this product of the vine until that day when i drink it new with you in the kingdom of my father.
cross reference luke 22:18 for i tell you , from now on, i will not drink again from the product of the vine until the kingdom of god comes.. what is the point of all of this: matt 26:29 " i drink it new with you " mark 14:25 " drink new in the kingdom of god.
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waton
Since Noah's flood and the destruction of Lot's Sodom & Gomorrah are symbols/types for the Armageddon devastation, the change into the wt New World, the kingdom to come, ---
In both instances wine and its warming, warning effects are told as an immediate feature of the better times ahead.
keep the drinking in the family.