Posts by jwundubbed

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Let's talk business ...

by dubstepped in

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i am thinking that this could be an interesting topic.

most of us never had a chance to go to college, many of us were involved in various service industries like cleaning and such, and we have had some limitations placed on us.

so i thought it might be interested to see what has worked for people, what hasn't, what the progression has been, where people went wrong and where they got it right.

I came from poverty and I'm still poor. The one job I really wanted was to be a mother and I can't do that. For the record, they don't adopt kids out to poor people, and for good reason. But even if they did, for health reasons, the better choice is to not have children. There are a lot of jobs I can't do for health reasons. I'm a good teacher. Teaching does not pay the bills. None of the things that I find joy in, pay the bills. And I'm not good at doing things that I can't find any joy in.

I haven't found success in business yet. But I did do one thing that I will count towards any success that I do eventually achieve. I went back to college. I had started in my early twenties and dropped out to deal with (diagnosed) extreme PTSD. I would tell anyone who is older and wants to go to college to go for it. I know this is true in the US. Ever since the recession hit in 2008 a LOT of older people have gone to college to change careers or to go into a career. I went back at the age of 35 or so and there were a lot of other non-traditional (older) students.

I'm actually planning on going back for my graduate degree in the next 2 years. I have some health problems at the moment that I want under better control before I get into school (which takes a lot of energy and self-motivation at the graduate level). I'll most likely be going for Teaching English to Speakers of Other Languages (TESOL) so that I can teach adults in college or high school most likely. It isn't a real productive career choice under the current administration. Trump has made the USA a very unfriendly place for foreigners, so that's lovely. And I won't be living in other countries to teach due to my health problems. But I might get to travel and see something of the world. That would be nice. I could make a real difference to some people in the world, and that is a decent second best to having children.

I'm currently disenfranchised with my career choices and options. I'm usually a very positive person. If I could go back and do it over knowing what I know now.... I would do everything differently. Everything. But I made the best choices I could at each point I had to make choices. Wait till I have a permanent job and benefits. Then my tune will be much more positive.

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2018-Message From Watchtower Informant!

by Atlantis in

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from one of our informants inside the watchtower.

(same person whosent us videos from the legal dept., accounting dept., pioneer school,and so forth.

) atlantis told him that he is walking on a razors edge,to be extremely careful.his email message:1. watch tower has no right to demand you to sign a consent form.

jwundubbed

Personal information is valuable... when it is formatted in easy-to-access types of information. Does anyone know what software they use to store the information? After seeing their website I have serious doubts that they would store the information in any usable format.

I'm not worried about the JWs having my information. There are so many groups mining the personal information from people in so many ways (facebook, phone data, etc.) that I find it impossible to really care that they have my information. You know the government already has 'records' on us, no matter what government you are under. I am certain that the IRS and the FBI have records on me already... and so far... there hasn't been a single reason to get all hyper about it. I can't stop it. I can't stop it being shared. And what does it really do to me? It hurts my credit score which is already so far in the crapper that additional information is merely annoying because they insist on reminding me of it.

So... this seems like a big deal to a lot of people, but I just don't see any reason to worry about it. I definitely do not care if they have a record on me. They have no power over me and keeping records on me only fills up their paper/digital files. It doesn't hurt me in the least.

And as to being a whistle blower... if I can be scared away by them having kept personal information on me, then I have no right to be a whistle-blower. You have to have a hard shell and hard skin if you are going to call a powerful group to the floor. You better be ready for them to fight dirty. They might even make stuff up. It is way better to acknowledge that they fight dirty and have your answer ready to defend yourself against that kind of crap behavior. Them keeping records makes them look bad, especially if they keep records on people who grew up in their organization. That is all kinds of creepy.

So where does the Freedom of Information Act fall into all of this. My understanding is that if the Information Act applies to a group, they can't deny you access to your records but they can charge you for the copies they send you.

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WT rules about forgiving a cheating mate

by Addison0998 in

i hate the rule about if your mate cheats on you, and you have sex with them, you are not free to remarry because the sex means you forgave them and keeps you stuck with them!

i personally disagree and think it’s so controlling that they think they can dictate what goes on behind closed doors between two consenting, legally married married people.

and that they think they have the right to label what other people’s sex means.

jwundubbed

Also, don't forget that it is adultry when a person is raped. And by the cult's standards one cannot rape (or be raped by) their spouse. And if it is a child that is raped, then they are guilty of having sex before marriage.

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WT rules about Adultry and forgiveness

by Addison0998 in

i hate the rule about if your mate cheats on you, and you have sex with them, you are not free to remarry because the sex means you forgave them and keeps you stuck with them!

i personally disagree and think it’s so controlling that they think they can dictate what goes on behind closed doors between two consenting, legally married married people.

and that they think they have the right to label what other people’s sex means.

jwundubbed

Is there a reason that you posted this twice? Only 12 or so hours apart?

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2018-Message From Watchtower Informant!

by Atlantis in

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friends

from one of our informants inside the watchtower.

(same person whosent us videos from the legal dept., accounting dept., pioneer school,and so forth.

) atlantis told him that he is walking on a razors edge,to be extremely careful.his email message:1. watch tower has no right to demand you to sign a consent form.

jwundubbed

I think I'm missing something again. Why do we care if they have 'records' on us? What power does that give them over us? What can they do with that information?

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WOW! Adam and Noah were the same generation.

by FedUpJW in

this little nugget was found in the wt this morning, although 99.9% of people will not see it the same way i did.

"how did noah hear about jehovah?

he no doubt learned much from his relatives.

jwundubbed

So... basically, the generation thing is just 6 degrees of separation.

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Refusing to Report time in field ministry

by Whynot in

what do you think would happen if i verbally refuse to report my time?

it's been several months since i turned in my time and i think the elder got tired of asking me lol.

frankly, i think it's stupid that jws are required to do this.

jwundubbed

You have gotten some really good advice. I never had anyone bother me about not turning in time. But to be honest, I counted an hour every time I left something on the bus or on a bench somewhere. My numbers were never regular and I never gave good witness at the door (because of anxiety) so I don't think they really care if I reported anything. So, I'm not much help there.

But as for your husband wanted to go back for his friendships, have you considered getting involved in something new... together? Find something social to do that he really enjoys and can really get into. When he has people to hang out with, then he won't think about the people he isn't hanging out with quite so much. It will also help you both fade mentally. Being around people who have no idea what the JWs are really helps you have a more mainstream mentality and that helps you break away. You do better when you set new norms to fall back on.

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Translation Please

by jwundubbed in

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friends

i hate asking stupid or obvious questions, but i missed something somewhere along the line.

what is pimi and pomi?

did i even get the acronyms correct?

jwundubbed

Thanks everyone! It definitely wasn't a stupid question as I never would have guessed what those acronyms mean.

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Translation Please

by jwundubbed in

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friends

i hate asking stupid or obvious questions, but i missed something somewhere along the line.

what is pimi and pomi?

did i even get the acronyms correct?

jwundubbed

I hate asking stupid or obvious questions, but I missed something somewhere along the line. What is PIMI and POMI? Did I even get the acronyms correct?

On a sort of related note... does anyone have a list of JW language explained? The language specific to the JWs (and exJWs too) with definitions?

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When You Die Would You Haunt The Governing Body? If It were Possible?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

i've been reading a lot about reincarnation these days and i'm beginning to think that it quite possibly might be true, it seems to fit in nicely with the idea that we live in a computer simulation.. anyway according to the tibetan book of the dead when we die we seem to hang around on the earth waiting for rebirth.

at which time we could be ghosts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/bardo_thodol.

jwundubbed

I might see if there was a heaven or hell, then see if I could do anything about making sure the GB all got a special single cell together. I would sign a petition or something.

I might see if I could get them all into this cell.

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