Let's be real. Harris is irrelevant standing next to Trump. The democrats need a vibrant candidate if they want to have a chance at winning. Even people that don't like Trump were impressed with how he handled being shot at. I'm not impressed with Harris even though she passes my initial bar for candidacy, but only just.
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Vice President Kamala Harris…your thoughts??
by minimus ingood pick?
bad pick?
helpful to president biden?
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Radical shake up
by Mikejw inimagine if all the governing body resigned and a new set of brothers came in and said we are very very sorry for all those who have been disfellowshipped and disassociated over the years.
we know many mistakes have been made.
we are really genuinely sorry to all those who have been hurt and especially those who have died and been hurt by these mistakes.
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Imagine if all the governing body resigned and a new set of brothers came in
But not to worry we will still be discriminating against women. We're different people... still men and only men... so not really different, just different. You know?
Dude... if you can't conceive of gender equality long enough to set your hypothetical in place... nothing can change. When you can't suppose a difference of real value, then there isn't a capability of change because the problem is so systemic that you don't even realize you are part of the problem yourself.
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Elders get Paid??
by jwundubbed ini just did a google search to see if i could find out if my old kingdom hall was still there, in the town i grew up in.
google has generated questions.
the first question asked how much jehovah's witness elders get paid.
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I didn't think they got paid. The Elders I knew always had hard work/low pay jobs. Maybe the website also assumes that JW Elders are the same as religious leaders in other religions?
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Elders get Paid??
by jwundubbed ini just did a google search to see if i could find out if my old kingdom hall was still there, in the town i grew up in.
google has generated questions.
the first question asked how much jehovah's witness elders get paid.
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I just did a Google search to see if I could find out if my old Kingdom Hall was still there, in the town I grew up in. Google has generated questions. The first question asked how much Jehovah's Witness elders get paid. Is this for real?
Zip Recruiter
Top Earners Annual Salary: $90,500; Top Earners Monthly wage: $7,541
75th Percentile Annual: $70,500; 75th Percentile Monthly: $5,875
Average Annual: $59,723; Average Monthly: $4,976
25th Percentile Annual: $49,000; 25th Percentile Monthly: $4,083
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So what happens next...
by Farmer Jim1 inwith what is arguably the biggest change to jw life in recent decades (the scrapping of publishers counting hours) what does this lead to?.
in my mind these are the results;.
1) a massive decrease in 'preaching hours'.
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In order to get baptized I had to be regularly be reporting at least 10 hours a month. If no one has to publish hours anymore... is this criteria just scrapped? I mean, I think it is a great change and I'm all for it.. in or out. But it actually seems like a good criteria that people wanting to be baptized as Jehovah's Witnesses actually do witness to a specific standard. I mean, it's part of the name.
Anyone know what happened with this?
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New Light and Update tracking
by jwundubbed indoes anyone have a list of all the new light or gb updates in order?
is there a post here that lists all the changes in the organization?
i left about 1996 and i haven't kept up, but it seems like a completely different organization than it was when i was in it.
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@peacefulpete
I'm not sure what your answer has to do with my question. I agree that it is as it has always been. I'm still curious about the changes and having a list of them... either since 1996 or since the beginning.
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Help urgently needed.
by MissDaSilva ina sister has snitched on me.
got a message from my group overseer requesting a little chat to see if i’m okay.
urgent suggestions needed please.
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You might consider turning it back on your sister. Let them know that you are just fine but that you are really worried about your sister. She seems to be having a lot of doubts and her behavior is odd lately.
My sister started a rumor about me and half my family shunned me. I had no recompense as it was a done deal. That was over 25 years ago and they are all still shunning me. If I could go back, I would take her behavior to the elders and I would explain to them that I was depressed and doing nothing wrong. That was actually the case at the time.
I would still fade out, but maybe I would have maintained some of my family relationships.
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New Light and Update tracking
by jwundubbed indoes anyone have a list of all the new light or gb updates in order?
is there a post here that lists all the changes in the organization?
i left about 1996 and i haven't kept up, but it seems like a completely different organization than it was when i was in it.
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@notsurewheretogo
I don't want to go back in. That has nothing to do with why I asked.
It seems like a lot of work to me, but I think there are a lot of xJW nerds (this is a compliment) in the world and I am assuming someone has made a list somewhere.
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Daily Scriptures questions
by jwundubbed ini was wondering how long it would take to read the bible if one read only a single scripture everyday.
and then i remember there being a daily scriptures booklet/book.
in my memory it was purple.
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@Simon
That is insane, and awesome! Thank you for the knowledge!
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What If?
by peacefulpete inrecent news about beards is getting lots of attention.
it made me wonder if any guys will return to the church under the impression that 'so much has changed'.
back when, i knew a couple guys who were outspoken about beards, seeing it as an issue, and was never terribly moved by their viewpoint.
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I always tell people that I left not because the doctrine was hinky but because the way they treat people is unethical and lacking in morals. That is true. I was shunned based on a rumor.
All the things they are changing... are smaller parts of a systemic problem. It will take more than the GB allowing things to change systemic problems. So, no. I would not return just because it seems like a different place.
Also, when I left I was diagnosed with Extreme PTSD. 'Extreme' isn't a word that medical/mental professionals easily put together with 'PTSD'. I have PTSD because of the cult and their practices and it goes so much further than a few things that make life uncomfortable. I have deeply unsettling feelings towards blood that aren't what they JWs teach outwardly. I have deeply disturbing and terrifying fears of the afterlife, because a basic doctrine is that there isn't one, and if there was one I wouldn't qualify. I'm not alone in these types of fears and thinking. What you are talking about changing is the outward obvious things, but that would not change the internal subtle things that we pick up on in our amazing brains. Having to live with the subtle ideas that they ingrained in us won't be suddenly removed because they changed their minds about those things.
'Changing their minds' is part of the problem. Whose to say they won't reverse their choices? They do that. They back peddle a LOT. It isn't as noticeable because years go between their choices. Or they made the choice in one country and not in others.
Even if all of those things change... I still wouldn't be able to live freely as a non-straight person. My friend who was treated so horribly when he came out as gay won't be treated any better. 'Changes' do not excuse nor erase the horrible way that they have treated people in the past and I don't believe it will change how they treat people going forward. It would be different but it still wouldn't be right.
JWs aren't Christians. They don't follow Christ. If they did they would be called Christ's Witnesses. I can't be party to a group that is so discombobulated that they don't even know they aren't Christians.
Finally, not long after I left I found a different belief system. It is a belief in multiple Gods. I've never been a Christian. I will never be a pseudo-Christian. My current belief doesn't force me to be someone that I'm not. My current beliefs don't force me to act in ways that go against my ethics, nor even that I simply don't want to engage in.
No. I still would not go back.