Posts by jwundubbed

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Shocking news

by Confusedalot in

i recently posted about what would happen if my mom got sick,seeing that i'm apostate.

even today i posted on a thread about blood transfusions.. i just received a text from my brother saying that my mom is in hospital and requires a transfusion to survive....is this a coincidence?.

am i being punished by jehovah, or is the devil out to get me...i dont know anymore what to do.... things are getting too much, guess i should not have joked so much in my posts..

jwundubbed

Am I being punished by Jehovah, or is the devil out to get me

So.... either God is hurting you or Satan is hurting you? Does that really make sense to you? Shouldn't one of those particular two be trying to help you and the other is trying to harm you? Isn't that how it is supposed to work? The fact that you see both deities as out to get you... should tell you something about your logic. It isn't working quite right. It should also tell you about your state of mind in regards to your religious authority. You aren't in a position where you trust in a higher power. If you take a moment to digest your own words, you do know what to think.

Your mom is sick and she needs medical help that she might not get. You are faced with possibly losing your mother. It sucks and it hurts and there isn't any good reason for it. It is much easier to blame a non-existent body that can't talk back and tell you that you are wrong. It is much easier to blame a deity than to face what must be an incredibly painful moment in your life.

Don't be so hard on yourself. Life is hard enough. Losing the ones we love is hard enough. Instead of looking for someone to blame... maybe have a good long cry. Accept that you might experience a loss. It will be much easier to face if you have prepared for it. While blaming an absent deity is easier, it won't make what you have to go through any easier. You are in for hard times. And the hard reality is that sometimes you can't protect yourself from that. You just have to face it. Breath. Walk forward. Get out of bed. Cry. Talk. Keep moving and keep living until it gets easier to deal with. It will get easier to deal with.

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My return to the WT...a terrible mistake

by JustHuman14 in

i haven't posted for quite a bit, decided to share my thoughts on this one, so it is a reference topic for anyone who decides to return back to the org, knowing all about the tatt.

being way for quite long for almost 15 years and all wt's activities, i have missed quite a lot including the "new light" latest updates, i found it quite hard to follow up what was going on to the meetings.

new songs, wt broadcast, videos, internet (so wt now is in favor of the internet) cartoons, and everything seemed completely new and weird to me.. reason for going back it was the severe pressure from close family members to return back to the "truth".

jwundubbed

It is never too late to become educated. Look into schools in your area. They will have counselors that you can talk to. If your family questions your choice to become more educated, then point out the elder's kids that got a college education.

I just graduated with an undergraduate degree in 2014. I was 38 years old. With hard times more and more adults are going to (or back to) college. They are called non-traditional students. Ask the schools that you look into about options and resources as a non-trad student. Check out the Financial Aid, you may be surprised how much assistance you can get. Look at trade schools as well as colleges. Check out your local community colleges if you aren't confident in your academic abilities. Only thing... be sure you know what you want to go for before you start. It is easy to make poor economic choices when you don't know what your end goal is.

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Petition! 100,000 signatures...

by darkspilver in

....are needed by tuesday 19 september 2017 !your voice in the white house.

we the people ask the federal government to tell us what the federal government is doing about an issue: investigate watchtower bible and tract society for known child sexual abuse within its organization and not reported.. created by h.c. on august 20, 2017. save the children!

pass a law to protect children.

jwundubbed

There are only 107 signatures for this so far and September 19 is not that far away. I would suggest sending the information to YouTube activists

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"You should worry when we stop knocking."

by Zoos in

what an arrogant thing to say.. "you shouldn't complain about us knocking on your door.

you should worry when we stop.".

wish i had a snappy response to shove up their pompous ass every time i hear a jw spew this..

jwundubbed

The bunker video!!!!

Who hides in a bunker but doesn't lock the door?

Who thinks that a simple 1, 2, 3 knocking code will save you?

Who puts a ladder in a basement bunker when the stairs are right outside the door and the ladder couldn't possibly lead anywhere? I mean, what was it supposed to be for???

If you are hiding in a bunker and expecting the end of the world... why would you be relying on tap water? I can only assume that when that person left the room to get water they went to a bathroom or kitchen... otherwise, why not keep the BOTTLED water in the same room with you? They all huddled together like that was the only room... then suddenly there was another room??? What?

So much about that video made no sense. Like why the LAPD were all wearing different shoes, not the combat boots those squads usually wear. I hope they make a full movie. I love disaster comedies.

Oh, but back to the subject... a comeback...

"Are you kidding? Who would want to live forever with a jerk like you? I'd rather meet Satan in Sheol and live happily never after." (I probably got that last name wrong. It's been too long. I can't remember!)

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"You should worry when we stop knocking."

by Zoos in

what an arrogant thing to say.. "you shouldn't complain about us knocking on your door.

you should worry when we stop.".

wish i had a snappy response to shove up their pompous ass every time i hear a jw spew this..

jwundubbed

"Oh. Do you still do that? Huh? The absence hasn't bothered me yet."

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What is the watchtower going to do when

by pepperheart in

what is the watchtower going to do when the money runs out ??

?.

jwundubbed

> A few people have wondered if/when the Gov Body will run off with the money. They don't need to.

Um.... they do if they want to keep it out of the courts. Last few court hearings I have seen the judges fined them every day until they provided specific paperwork AND held them in contempt. They never provided the paperwork and the fees added up. Then add to that any losses where they are found in fault and have to hand over large chunks of money... it isn't just about all the in-house bookkeeping. There are external factors as well.

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What is the watchtower going to do when

by pepperheart in

what is the watchtower going to do when the money runs out ??

?.

jwundubbed

Ever since I saw the 'bunker' videos I have been waiting for the GB to announce that Armageddon has arrived, to send everyone off to their designated shelters, and then flee the country with their money to whatever off-shore bank account country will have them. Then I expect to see news accounts of bizarre shelter stories.

I got this idea into my head somehow and just can't shake it.

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Jehovah's Witnesseses have been waiting so long for Armageddon...

by usualusername1 in

jw
friends

that they have starting building towers from watches or watchtowers....

jwundubbed

JWs don't mind waiting because they live, not in the present or the past, but in the future. This was a big lesson for me to learn when I was dealing with my PTSD. As long as I lived thinking every moment that death was right around the corner, I couldn't get away from my anxiety. But when I started living in the present and only setting goals for the future... then my anxiety went away.

For JWs the new system, Armageddon, and all the benefits are just a tomorrow away. When you live in tomorrow, it isn't really waiting.

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Intro... Back after a long non-lurking hiatus

by jwundubbed in

jw
friends

i hope this is the right place to put this.

so, i joined this site a while ago because i was looking for conversation and to help people.

i think at the time i actually needed to be around the kinds of people that i had grown up with as well.

jwundubbed

Thanks for the warm welcome!

@smiddy,

Thanks. I typically don't have any problem putting my name and face on my comments, but I will keep the advice in mind.

@shepherdless, Thank you!

@Confusedalot,

As you know the effects of JW brainwashing have long term effects on our behaviour and thought patterns that seem very difficult to shake. Talking and sharing seem to work wonders though, especially with people that share some common ground.

Yes, I have found talking to people who share common ground to be very helpful. And no matter how much of the brainwashing you work out there always seems to be more to work on.

@LongHairGal,

In reading your words: "I feel and take on responsibilities that aren't mine", what I think you mean (unless I am mistaken) is that the Witness religion tries to get or guilt-trip people to get involved in the problems of users and dysfunctional people, doing favors and what not.

The JW cult does try to guilt people into helping users and dysfunctional people. I wholeheartedly agree with that sentiment. And I grew up with a mother that did exactly that and made her kids help her. I definitely had to take the time to learn to separate and distance myself from unhealthy people. More than that, I had to learn that it is okay to have firm boundaries between myself and unhealthy or harmful people. And I would be lying if I said I had overcome that. I am still working on that as well. But I also just assume responsibility for people when I shouldn't.

I'll definitely be lurking. I'll chime in when I can and when I want to.

This was as much a reminder to myself as it was a comment to the forum. I join a forum and assume that I have a hard-bonded responsibility to it. And no one puts that on me. I do that all by myself. So, I'm working on not taking responsibility for things I have no need or business taking responsibility for. It has taken me a long time to realize that, after necessities, I should only have the responsibilities in my life that I want to have.

@Tallon, Thank you! I appreciate your relaxed vibe.

@stuckinarut2, Thank you!

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Intro... Back after a long non-lurking hiatus

by jwundubbed in

jw
friends

i hope this is the right place to put this.

so, i joined this site a while ago because i was looking for conversation and to help people.

i think at the time i actually needed to be around the kinds of people that i had grown up with as well.

jwundubbed

I hope this is the right place to put this.

So, I joined this site a while ago because I was looking for conversation and to help people. I think at the time I actually needed to be around the kinds of people that I had grown up with as well. I didn't participate when I initially joined because I didn't understand the site. I still don't. But I know how to put in the work to learn how an individual website works. I found another site that had a format I was familiar with and also was very active. I started participating there. Then they shut down without a by your leave. Gah!

I came back here for support. But again... didn't stay long and didn't participate much. For much the same reason. This-and-that and drama blah blah blah on another site and I gave up on JW or exJW everything for a while. There was some personal drama at the same time. I had a relationship that ended on a very bad note. So... I went a bit hermit and stopped doing much with internet social networks of any kind. I hunkered down to focus on myself and working figuring out what kind of person I want to be. I worked on forming healthier life habits.

None of this is telling you much about me... I'll get there. I was born and raised a JW. I left when I was 18-20, almost right after I got baptized. Strangely that was the last straw for me. I won't go into all that here and now. It was right after that, that I started showing symptoms of extreme PTSD. My little sister told a lie about me and most of my JW family shunned me. Well, if they were going to shun me for a lie then I might as well tell them the truth. Anyone on the fence before was done with me when they found out I'm not Christian/hetero-normative.

About 20 years later and I find that I have gotten over most of the PTSD, I am happier than ever since I saw the last of my JW family shun me, and even though I have come a very long way the JW programming still has some effect on me. I feel and take on responsibilities that aren't mine. This is what I'm working on at the moment. There are a lot of other things that non-JW people just don't get and can't have explained to them.

I feel the need for conversation again... and good conversation. This site has that. You may or may not hear from me on the boards though because I'm gonna do it right this time. I'm going to hunker down and figure out how this site works best. I'll definitely be lurking. I'll chime in when I can and when I want to.

Anyway, I just wanted to say hello and let you know who I am. In the past people have called me 'jwun' (sounds Korean, which is kinda awesome) or 'undub'. I like both. I'm not picky. Whatever will be, will be.

So... Hello!