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  A Former Jehovah's Witness shares her me too story

  by LisaRose in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/12/16/a-former-jehovahs-witness-shares-her-metoo-story/.

  when i was 23 years old, i started dating a (jehovah’s) witness boy and we’d go out to some dance clubs.

  there was a night in particular where i had too much to drink.

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  jwundubbed

  If a woman claims a man raped her while she was drunk and then he counters that she had sex with him while he was drunk, both people can be charged with rape. See how that works? The law doesn't make as many distinctions as you seem to think it does, because laws don't cover every single possible situation. That is what prosecuters, lawyers, judges, and jurries are for.

  I think you are the one who is mistaken. Got to any university campus where they are teaching students about what rape actually is and you will find that if a person cannot consent, then it is rape. If a person is under the influence of a substance which removes their ability to consent... then it is rape.

  Is every single person charged just because they had sex while drunk? No. Again, the law doesn't work that way.

  It's only rape if there's no verbal consent...

  Your understanding of the law is outdated.
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  A Former Jehovah's Witness shares her me too story

  by LisaRose in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/12/16/a-former-jehovahs-witness-shares-her-metoo-story/.

  when i was 23 years old, i started dating a (jehovah’s) witness boy and we’d go out to some dance clubs.

  there was a night in particular where i had too much to drink.

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  jwundubbed

  Fred Franztone,

  Don't use this to push your own puritanical agenda. Saying that all drunk sex is rape is a ridiculous assertion. I'd wager that for most couples, drunken sex will have accounted for many of their happiest times together.

  In the United States drunk sex is actually considered rape legally. If both people are drunk they can both be legally charged with rape. I was stating a fact of law, not my personal opinion. And even if the people involved are a couple or married it is still considered rape, by law. What exactly do you think my 'agenda' is?

  But if your mind is altered then you aren't capable of making informed consensual choices and so I happen to agree with this particular law. In other countries... you would have to look it up top see if drunk sex is legally considered rape.
  

  If one person has sex with another person while they are unconscious, regardless of if the person is drunk, asleep, in a coma, or drugged... then the person initiating sex is committing rape, legally speaking.

  Legally, the lines aren't very grey. If a person is inebriated then they cannot legally consent to sex. So, to all of you who responded... legally there isn't a big difference in what counts as non-consensual sex when alcohol or other mind altering substances are involved. There may be a big difference in how those cases are prosecuted or in what sentence one gets from such a charge.
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  A Former Jehovah's Witness shares her me too story

  by LisaRose in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/12/16/a-former-jehovahs-witness-shares-her-metoo-story/.

  when i was 23 years old, i started dating a (jehovah’s) witness boy and we’d go out to some dance clubs.

  there was a night in particular where i had too much to drink.

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  jwundubbed

  In 2016, the Pew Research Institute produced demographic data, showing that Jehovah’s Witnesses make up less than one percent of the U.S. population. In California, two-thirds of them are women. The religious organization has a low retention rate relative to other U.S. religious groups, according to Pew. Sixty-six percent of adults raised as Jehovah’s Witnesses no longer identify with the group.

  I wish I had known these stats when I was in. Way different than the picture they present.
  

  Nobody should loose all their family and friends because they were young and stupid and had too much to drink.

  No they shouldn't. No one should lose their family and friends because a man raped them while they were drunk. It isn't sex if either of them are drunk because drunk people can't consent. From what she said it wasn't his first time doing that at all (he cried about having a problem when it happened the first time) and he continued to do it during their marriage.

  That whole situation just sucks.
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  Should private citizens be allowed to video record law enforcement?

  by Fisherman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i saw an article in the news yesterday that laws are going to be passed subjecting the police to being recorded by anyone while performing their duty or enforcing the law and encourages citizens to sue if they interfere.

  some law enforcement agents become angry and confiscate recording devices from people recording them while making an arrest, etc.. it does seem that the work that the police and other government agents do is public and not private or confidential so there should be nothing to hide from the cameras.

  on the other hand, how can one distinguish being shot by a camera or by a weapon until one is hit?.

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  truth_b_known

  As a police officer of nearly 20 years I would certainly hope that a good citizen filming me struggling to take a suspect into custody would lend a hand.

  That is a truly brave man in the clip you showed. There was an article on the BBC News asking the question of if people should help instead of filming. The experts that were interviewed said filming does help but the most important thing is for people to gauge their safety.

  I think it depends on the situation. I'm likely to help if I can... but... who can know what they will do until they are in that situation.

  I see the corruption, I see the good intentions gone wrong, and then I have worked in places where I was grateful for police presence. It's a thankless job these days.
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  Should private citizens be allowed to video record law enforcement?

  by Fisherman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i saw an article in the news yesterday that laws are going to be passed subjecting the police to being recorded by anyone while performing their duty or enforcing the law and encourages citizens to sue if they interfere.

  some law enforcement agents become angry and confiscate recording devices from people recording them while making an arrest, etc.. it does seem that the work that the police and other government agents do is public and not private or confidential so there should be nothing to hide from the cameras.

  on the other hand, how can one distinguish being shot by a camera or by a weapon until one is hit?.

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  Fisherman,

  Like I said, he told her that he was arresting her after he had already started chasing her. It was an unlawful arrest, and might even have been deemed so because he is required by law to notify her before he attempts to actually make the arrest. So... that is all in the video too.
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  Charging $150 To Tell Your Stories

  by Bangalore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/how-to-escape-from-jehovah-s-witnesses-religion#/.

  for $150: collaboration with the backer so that their story of successfully escaping an abusive belief system (300 words max) features along with others in the final pages of how to escape from jehovah's witnesses.

  the text will be written by the author but will include a minimum of one quote worded by the backer.

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  jwundubbed

  I think y'all are making way too much fuss about Cedar's use of the word ''girls". It is a very common term in chatting forums. Even (many, not all) women who don't like being called 'females' are fine with their chatting/texting/sexting partners calling them 'girl'. It is often just a pet name, not an actual indicator of age.
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  Should private citizens be allowed to video record law enforcement?

  by Fisherman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i saw an article in the news yesterday that laws are going to be passed subjecting the police to being recorded by anyone while performing their duty or enforcing the law and encourages citizens to sue if they interfere.

  some law enforcement agents become angry and confiscate recording devices from people recording them while making an arrest, etc.. it does seem that the work that the police and other government agents do is public and not private or confidential so there should be nothing to hide from the cameras.

  on the other hand, how can one distinguish being shot by a camera or by a weapon until one is hit?.

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  jwundubbed

  Fisherman - The vid shows that she resisted arrest. That is very dangerous for the cops and for her. But the vid also shows what happened which makes it harder for the cops to lie.

  She actually did not resist arrest. The officer chased her while trying to take something from her, which he didn't have a warrant to take. His action was illegal and if she had just handed over what he wanted she actually could be arrested. He didn't notify her that he was arresting her until after he had caught her and started to put her hands behind her back. She had no reason to think that he would arrest her because she was doing her job and upholding the law.
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  Should private citizens be allowed to video record law enforcement?

  by Fisherman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i saw an article in the news yesterday that laws are going to be passed subjecting the police to being recorded by anyone while performing their duty or enforcing the law and encourages citizens to sue if they interfere.

  some law enforcement agents become angry and confiscate recording devices from people recording them while making an arrest, etc.. it does seem that the work that the police and other government agents do is public and not private or confidential so there should be nothing to hide from the cameras.

  on the other hand, how can one distinguish being shot by a camera or by a weapon until one is hit?.

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  Nurse arrested for doing job.

  Good explanation why the arrest of the nurse was illegal
  

  This would never have made the news if someone hadn't recorded the event. It clearly isn't security video footage but a recording on a device.... that means that it could have been taken by a private citizen. The officer involved later lost his job. He should have been charged with a crime as well. -

  Private citizens recording police actions is the only way to keep them honest. Who polices law enforcement? They police themselves. Anyone who thinks that a system that only has internal policing isn't going to have any corruption is fooling themselves.
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  ARC - Final Report - Jehovah's WItnesses

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/religious-institutions.

  one of our case studies examined the responses of the jehovah’s witness organisation to allegations of child sexual abuse.

  we also held an institutional review hearing to provide an opportunity for the jehovah’s witness organisation to inform us of its current policies and procedures in relation to child protection and child safe standards, including responding to allegations of child sexual abuse.as of 31 may 2017, of the 4,029 survivors who told us during private sessions about child sexual abuse in religious institutions, 70 survivors told us about abuse in the jehovah’s witnesses.

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  jwundubbed

  We welcome the inclusion in the recently published Child safeguarding policy of Jehovah’s Witnesses in Australia of a requirement to report child sexual abuse to civil authorities in cases where elders consider that a child may still be at risk of harm.

  The problem with this is that,. as seen in testimony in various court cases, the elders often don't think the person will re-offend. They don't think that 'a child' may still be at risk. The wording still gives elders and opt-out for reporting to civil authorities.

  
  
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  Charging $150 To Tell Your Stories

  by Bangalore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/how-to-escape-from-jehovah-s-witnesses-religion#/.

  for $150: collaboration with the backer so that their story of successfully escaping an abusive belief system (300 words max) features along with others in the final pages of how to escape from jehovah's witnesses.

  the text will be written by the author but will include a minimum of one quote worded by the backer.

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  jwundubbed

  I have a question. If he chooses to use your content, for which you have paid him $150, who owns the copyright to your story? If you decided, at a later time, to write your own story... would you be in breech of copyright/plaigerism laws if you have some of the same content? Would he be legally able to sue you?

  Did you know that even if you write something too similar to what you have already written you can be prosecuted for plagiarism?

  This is a real issue, and I would advise anyone interested in contributing to his book to look into this before you sign up to give him your content.