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  What are YOU depending on for Salvation? New Video

  by JW Answers in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  many groups (jehovah's witnesses, mormons, sda'..) false teachers and deceivers today rely and depend on good works, their own righteousness, keeping the law, having a certain lifestyle or behaviour, being faithful in service and/or being baptised to save them from their sins.

  however, all of the above according to god's word, will never save a soul.

  in this video, i cover most items which people today try and depend on to save them from their sins.

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  jwundubbed

  My soul was saved when I left the cult. I'm good now. I don't need to seek out salvation that I've already found.
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  I Wouldn’t Be Surprised If The USA Had Another Civil War!

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have never seen this country so divided.

  something is going to give.

  they is such a lack of recognition for the law.

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  All the people you see in the news making waves are a tiny percentage of the American population. Most of us are just trying to work, eat, sleep, pay the bills, see to our children, and otherwise make it from one day to the next. I don't watch all that news and I don't see what you are talking about in my daily life. I see a lot of struggle. I do read some news. I'm somewhat up on world events. But those events don't have much to do with my daily life and neither does a lot of the most sensational American news.

  I doubt there will be an American civil war any time soon.
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  Hatred From My Children for Not Leaving the Organization Earlier

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm not proud of the fact that it took me over 50 years to realized what the organization really was and to finally leave it.

  not proud at all, i feel pretty stupid.

  however i didn't lose my children.

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  jwundubbed

  Kids blame their parents. You don't have to have raised them in a cult for them to blame you for how their lives turned out. This is actually a stage of development that people go through. A lot of children (meaning offspring... not meaning young in chronological age) go through this stage in their early 20's. Some people don't go through this stage until they are older or also going through a mid-life crisis. Children in crisis often blame their parents.

  You can empathize with your children. You can have regrets. But at a certain point in time you need to let them know that blaming you isn't healthy and they need to get on with their lives and more forward or they need professional help. They might need both.

  You did the best that you could. You got out. That you didn't get out in time... well you can't change that. And who knows if that would even have been better for them? Playing the 'what-if' game is never a good idea.

  The real danger is letting your kids think that it is okay to play into an idea that their lives would be drastically different if things had been different. Very little in life changes our course and destination. We have all these movies telling us that if we made just one single change in our past our lives would turn out drastically different but I don't believe that is true. The only changes that massively effect our lives are the pivotal choices. You already did that for them by deciding to leave. That was a pivotal choice. When that choice happened wouldn't have made as big an impact as the fact that you did leave.

  Don't be too hard on yourself and don't let your children be too hard on you either... unless you did something really wrong to them. Waiting to make sure you are making the right choice isn't the wrong choice to make.
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  Apostate - what does the word mean to you?

  by Tallon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  over a period of time i got to thinking - what does the word 'apostate' mean to me.

  having given it some thought, this is my view;.

  the org has given the word its own definition and basically use it to demonise people and consider them pariahs.. however, the jw meaning of 'apostate' is a mere word and only has power if recognised as such.

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  'Apostate' is just a JW buzzword. It doesn't have much meaning to me at all.
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  My brain will explode

  by Alex Bogdanov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am so tired to talk to jws that i know.

  i think one day i will become rude and ingore them and avoid them.

  every conversation ends like this-.

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  Why are you trying to convince them that you are right and they are wrong. That isn't a typical conversation. It always ends the same way because they are operating under cognitive dissonance and you can't argue logic to someone who doesn't have logical thoughts.

  To be honest I think it would be more polite if you did ignore and avoid them. I think that the conversations you are trying to have with them now... is actually you being quite rude.
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  I don't get why some point to the no tolerance for gays and subjugation of women as a JW thing.

  by blownaway in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some churches have taken the step to allow gays, women instructing men ect.

  but its not a jw thing.

  its a bible thing.

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  If you are going to believe in the bible as the word of god you have to believe that women are not to be in a position over a man, that gays are gross sinners and the bible condemns them to death.

  @blownaway,

  Could you cite the actual places in the bible where these things are states as truths, please? Can you tell me where it says that I have to believe that? And can you do it from a bible that isn't the JW bible, please? And can you also tell me the historical context in which these things were written? And can you use the non-JW bible to prove that these ideas were meant to last for eternity, please?
  
  
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  Are YOU Shunned By JW Family or Friends?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  some who are not disfellowshipped are still shunned i also know there’ are disfellowshipped ones that family still associate with..

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  I am neither DF'd nor DA'd. My younger sister started a rumor about me when I was about 18-20 and half my family shunned me just because of that. Still to this day I have no idea what the rumor actually was and yet my family is still shunning me.

  At best I would be considered inactive.

  Around 2014 the JWs were making a big push to shun inactive loved ones to show them the error of their ways. My mom decided to shun my elder sister and I (but not our younger brother who went so far as to join the Navy to get out of the JWs) but she waited 3-4 months so that she could tell me she was shunning me on the day of my graduation from college. Great gal, my mom.

  I told her not to bother ever changing her mind because I would never forgive her for that and she was dead to me from then on. Still... I've never been officially kicked out or officially left the cult and yet I'm shunned anyway. I know that my mother and younger sister use the cult practice to A.) try to manipulate people and B.) excuse their awful behaviors. But the rest of the family is just operating without any proof or reason.

  It isn't loving and shunning me will only ever make me see that I made the right choice to leave. That was the least error-like move I ever made.
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  Alex O'Connor's (CosmicSkeptic) great video! Now over 1 million views!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wow!.

  so as many of us know, alex o'connor (cosmicskeptic) did a great video a few years back in response to the appallingly homophobic caleb and sophia cartoon!.

  he gets a lot of views for his videos, but this one has more than any other presentation by him!

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  Disclaimer: Any young ones on this forum, if you are reading this thread... don't look this up. It will take you down a rabbit hole you can never come back from and you just can't un-see some things. Be warned.

  You know, back when I saw this originally I had all the same arguments.

  This time watching it all I could think was...

  "One Man, One Woman".... is that a play on the popular video "Two Girls, One Cup"?

  It wouldn't surprise me if JW.org were stupid enough to follow the masses of people playing with that title but unlike those masses having no idea what it is referencing. Ironically, I find both videos equally disgusting.
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  News spot for JW convention - keep barf bags ready

  by days of future passed in

  1. social
  2. current

  i could barely stand listening to it.

  watching the jw pushers at the same time was too much.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgix-5pfwf4.

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  This is awesome! Can you imagine people showing up out of curiosity because it is a 'big deal'? I don't think the response would be quite what they expect. A free event with videos!!! Provided by people who have no idea what it takes to be entertaining!!! Yeah, it is definitely different! Some blogger or journalist should go and write a review!
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  I Think Their Is A Move Coming From Higher Ups To Get These Insane Idiot Out Of The Drivers Seat Of Jehovah's Chariot

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  look at all the lawsuits, scandals, unsuccessful cover up, contribution shrinkage, stopped building project, and much more.

  these guys are steering jehovah's chariot off a cliff if someone don't put the breaks on these delusional clowns.. so what do you think is there something a foot there at chemical dump clean up site warwick?

  i bet you a coup is in the offing, because you know not everyone close to the governing body believes their bull shit but are playing along until the time is right to keep the wt ship from sinking like the titanic..

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  Well there you go, all you ambitious & cynical JWs. -- sir82

  You forgot to address only the ambitious and cynical MEN.

  Do you think they would accept someone who had a female-to-male sex change? You could add that to your list, but that seems pretty extreme. Although... maybe if someone did do that we could get some equality and rights for women to be leaders in the cult.