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  WoMD ... so where are they?

  by Simon in

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  now, the war is over, the weapons were not used and of course have not been found.. how threatening could they be if they did not even use them when being invaded by a massive force (of the countries they hate)?!

  perhaps, as many suspect, they didn't use them because they didn't have them?.

  now we're being told that we'll have to be patient and give them time to find them.

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  Terry.

  The reason the replies have dried up is because you know we were right before the war, that there were NO WMD and have been proven right.

  I would have loved to be proven wrong...but I wasn't.
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  WoMD ... so where are they?

  by Simon in

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  now, the war is over, the weapons were not used and of course have not been found.. how threatening could they be if they did not even use them when being invaded by a massive force (of the countries they hate)?!

  perhaps, as many suspect, they didn't use them because they didn't have them?.

  now we're being told that we'll have to be patient and give them time to find them.

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  As has been said...our pro-war friends are awfully quiet on this thread, aren't they?

  HELLO.........is there anybody there?
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  Simply the COOLEST commercial ever

  by pr_capone in

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  its a bit of a big file folks so if you either have a high speed internet connection or if you have a lot of time... i suggest you take a peek at this.

  http://home.attbi.com/~bernhard36/honda-ad.html.

  kansas district overbeer

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  The coolest ad. ever?....agreed.
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  Witnessism's........

  by integ in

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  i know some have posted similar topics like this, but i thought it might be kind of fun (for the new ones that are coming here in droves) and others, to give some examples of catch phrases etc, that are unique to the jw world.

  here's a few to start:.... "muster up boldness", "sound down into our hearts","satan's crafty acts", "paradisaic", "young ones"," discernment".....these are just a few of the more irritating.

  add yours if you'd like.. integ.

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  The 'faithful and discreet slave'........anything but.

  The 'new system'.......another delusion.

  'New Light'........as opposed to new lies.
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  Political Compass Test

  by Aztec in

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  i'm sure this has been posted before but i really enjoyed it.. http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/questionnaire.pl?page=1.

  i think like the dalai lama...lol!

  economic left/right: -3.62. authoritarian/libertarian: -5.33.

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  Here's mine....wonder what it means.....

  Your political compass

  Economic Left/Right: -5.75
  Authoritarian/Libertarian: -3.13

  Authoritarian
  Left		Right
  Libertarian
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  WoMD ... so where are they?

  by Simon in

  1. social
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  now, the war is over, the weapons were not used and of course have not been found.. how threatening could they be if they did not even use them when being invaded by a massive force (of the countries they hate)?!

  perhaps, as many suspect, they didn't use them because they didn't have them?.

  now we're being told that we'll have to be patient and give them time to find them.

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  Sunday, Jun. 01, 2003 Weapons of Mass Disappearance The war in Iraq was based largely on intelligence about banned arms that still haven't been found. Was America's spy craft wrong — or manipulated? By MICHAEL DUFFY

  How do take your country to war when it doesn't really want to go? You could subcontract with another nation, fight on the sly and hope no one notices. But if you need a lot of troops to prevail and you would like to remind everyone in the neighborhood who's boss anyway, then what you need most is a good reason — something to stir up the folks back home.

  As the U.S. prepared to go to war in Iraq last winter, the most compelling reason advanced by George W. Bush to justify a new kind of pre-emptive war was that Saddam Hussein possessed nuclear, chemical and biological arms — weapons of mass destruction (wmd). "There's no doubt in my mind but that they currently have chemical and biological weapons," said Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld in January. "We believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons," said Vice President Dick Cheney in March. That Iraq might have WMD was never the only reason the Bush Administration wanted to topple Saddam. But it was the big reason, the casus belli, the public rationale peddled over and over to persuade a skeptical nation, suspicious allies and a hostile United Nations to get behind the controversial invasion. And while that sales pitch fell flat overseas, it worked better than expected at home: by late March, 77% of the public felt that invading U.S. troops would find WMD.

  But eight weeks after the war's end, most of that confident intelligence has yet to pan out, and a growing number of experts think it never will. Current and former U.S. officials have begun to question whether the weapons will ever be found in anything like the quantities the U.S. suggested before the war — if found at all — and whether the U.S. gamed the intelligence to justify the invasion. For now, WMD seems to stand for weapons of mass disappearance. Smarting from the accusations that they had cooked the books, top U.S. officials fanned out late last week to say the hunt would go on and the weapons would eventually be found. CIA officials told TIME that they would produce a round of fresh evidence for increasingly wary lawmakers as early as next week. After dispatching dozens of G.I. patrols to some 300 suspected WMD sites in Iraq over the past two months, only to come up empty-handed, the Pentagon announced last week that it will shift from hunting for banned weapons to hunting for documents and people who might be able to say where banned weapons are — or were. But it is clear that the U.S. is running out of good leads. "We've been to virtually every ammunition supply point between the Kuwaiti border and Baghdad," Lieut. General James T. Conway, commander of the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force, said last week. "But they're simply not there."

  For full article go to: http://www.time.com/time/nation/printout/0%2C8816%2C455767%2C00.html
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  Do you think you will ever experience terrorism yourself?

  by freedom96 in

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  i bet the people in the twin towers never thought they would be the victims of a terrorist attack.

  sometimes the stuff that happens overseas seem so far away.

  i look around my community and find it hard to believe that anything is going to happen here.. i live in southern califonia, near san diego, and who knows?

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  Just a hypothetical question...

  do you think that the government would exagerate the terrorist threat (i.e. false orange alerts...closing down airports for no apparant reason etc) to heighten the threat in the public's mind so that they can bring in more restrictive regulations (i.e. Patriot act II) to supposedly protect the people, while eroding the civil liberties.?

  Without these terrorists, these new laws would NEVER have been passed.....just asking.
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  What's The Worst "Encouragement" That You've Recieved From The Brothers?

  by minimus in

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  after reading nina and sadie's experience, i couldn't help but appreciate hearing how the brothers are always trying to "encourage" ones.

  how did they try to encourage you?

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  After giving an Elder who had come to visit a good 'spiritual kicking' regarding false prophecies, the UN scandal, the blood issue and birthday celebrations, he admitted that he had no answers to the questions I asked and then proceeded to say that I should have a study of the 'Draw Close To Jehovah' book.

  I asked him why I would study that book with him if he can't answer the fundamental questions that I had asked.

  He said that I should just forget the questions, study the book with him, and Jehovah would give me the answers in time.!

  So I asked him to go away, get me the answers to my questions, and if he did, I would study the book with him.

  Still waiting.....
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  WoMD ... so where are they?

  by Simon in

  1. social
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  now, the war is over, the weapons were not used and of course have not been found.. how threatening could they be if they did not even use them when being invaded by a massive force (of the countries they hate)?!

  perhaps, as many suspect, they didn't use them because they didn't have them?.

  now we're being told that we'll have to be patient and give them time to find them.

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  As you can see from the following article, Blair is under pressure, but still sticking to the 'invisible evidence' story that even the US administration has dropped.

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  Last Updated: Sunday, 1 June, 2003, 10:36 GMT 11:36 UK Email this to a friend Printable version Blair 'certain over Iraq weapons' Bitter divisions remain over Iraq UK Prime Minister Tony Blair says he has seen evidence, not yet available to the public, that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. In an interview with Sky News, he said he had "no doubt whatsoever" that Saddam Hussein had had nuclear, chemical or biological weapons. There have been new claims over the legitimacy of a dossier on Iraq's weapons which had been made public before the conflict. And former cabinet minister Clare Short told a Sunday newspaper Mr Blair had "duped" MPs and the public over his real reasons for going to war. I have concluded that the PM decided to go to war in August sometime and he duped us all along Former cabinet minister Clare Short Clare Short's deception claims Ms Short, who resigned as international development secretary in the aftermath of the war, told the Sunday Telegraph: "He had decided for reasons that he alone knows to go to war over Iraq and to create this sense of urgency and drive it. "The way the intelligence was spun was part of that drive." Mr Blair, who is now in France for the G8 summit, said the results of interviews with Iraqi scientists and others had left him in no doubt on the weapons issue. There were also investigations under way at "hundreds" of Iraq sites which were turning up more evidence, he said. 'Have patience' Mr Blair said: "Over the coming weeks and months we will assemble this evidence and then we will give it to people. "And I have no doubt whatever that the evidence of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction will be there. Absolutely," he said. "Those people who are sitting there saying: 'Oh, it's all going to be proved to be a great big fib got out by the security services, there will be no weapons of mass destruction' - just wait, and have a little patience." HUNT ON FOR IRAQ'S WEAPONS Analysis: All at stake in weapons row Both the US and UK Governments have faced a wave of accusations in recent days that they embellished intelligence on the weapons issue to justify the controversial war. US President George Bush expressed satisfaction on Sunday with the hunt for alleged weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, citing the discovery of suspected bio-labs and a banned weapons system. However, a YouGov poll in the Mail of Sunday suggested 63% of voters believed Mr Blair misled the UK on the matter - although 50% still felt the war was justified. Intelligence judgment The Independent on Sunday quoted an unnamed intelligence source as saying the 45-minute claim came from a defector recruited by the Iraqi National Congress, which had been lobbying hard last year in favour of an invasion to topple Saddam. WHAT DO THE PUBLIC THINK? Blair misled public: 63% Did not mislead public: 29% War justified anyway: 50% War not justified: 43% Source: YouGov poll of 2,182 adults for Mail on Sunday Mr Blair told Sky News all the information in the dossier had been cleared by the Joint Intelligence Committee "and was their judgment - not my judgment or another politician's judgment". Foreign Secretary Jack Straw told BBC One's Breakfast with Frost that the UK did not go to war on the basis of what weapons might be found after the conflict. Instead, the decision was taken because there was "unquestionable" evidence about Iraq's banned weapons. Mr Blair made his promise of more weapons evidence in Russia, where he joined celebrations for St Petersburg's 300th anniversary. As he flew to the G8 summit at Evian in France, the prime minister urged the world to put aside disagreements about Iraq and work together on key issues like African poverty. Mr Blair told reporters: "The question is how do we move forward from here, and is there a desire in the international community to heal divisions and move on and I think there is." That call was echoed by European external relations commissioner Chris Patten, who appealed for a "generosity of spirit" to ensure the Iraq splits did not hinder efforts on boosting the world economy, Africa and Middle East peace.
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  Do you think you will ever experience terrorism yourself?

  by freedom96 in

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  i bet the people in the twin towers never thought they would be the victims of a terrorist attack.

  sometimes the stuff that happens overseas seem so far away.

  i look around my community and find it hard to believe that anything is going to happen here.. i live in southern califonia, near san diego, and who knows?

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  searchfothetruth

  You have much more chance of being struck by lightning than being the victim of Terrorism...it's the fear of Terrorism which creates the problem...which is the point, isn't it?