She has a career to defend. Telling people to leave a cult because it is causing them harm puts her at risk from its adherents, leaders, lawyers, and possibly - for all she knows - even you.
So, lifestyle choice. Take it as a codeword if you must.
so i had my first appointment with a counsellor, of course i explained about being a born in jw, mentally leaving, the penalty of doing so and therefore the mental strain of pretending to be someone i'm not.
her response was that she couldn't help me with that because leaving a cult was a "lifestyle choice".
i tried to say to her that its a cult not a religion and how it brain washed me but no.
She has a career to defend. Telling people to leave a cult because it is causing them harm puts her at risk from its adherents, leaders, lawyers, and possibly - for all she knows - even you.
So, lifestyle choice. Take it as a codeword if you must.
i have had a conversation this evening with a jw friend i have known since childhood.
he is of the opinion that armageddon will have come and gone within the next 5 years.
are the jws now pinpointing 2020 as the supposed year?
We gotta get outta this place
If it's the last thing we ever do.
Girl there's a better life for me and you...
i have had a conversation this evening with a jw friend i have known since childhood.
he is of the opinion that armageddon will have come and gone within the next 5 years.
are the jws now pinpointing 2020 as the supposed year?
What? You don't believe? ;)
i have had a conversation this evening with a jw friend i have known since childhood.
he is of the opinion that armageddon will have come and gone within the next 5 years.
are the jws now pinpointing 2020 as the supposed year?
when i was younger i used to hear about "marking talks" given in the past.
i believe they stopped in the 80's or 90's.
basically, if someone wasn't baptized or doing something unrepentant, they would get a "marking talk" and be treated the same as a df person.
They've used them in the past for people dating non-believers?
Oh, did they ever. I was threatened with one, because my then girlfriend (now wife) was a born-in who wasn't yet baptized.
starting an o.p is a challenge.the person who starts the o.p then relies on fellow posters to obtain feedback and hopefully keep the o.p, informative and positive.
so starting an o.p becomes " shared accountabilility" between o.p starter, and thread poster.. some o.p's will be more of a risk factor than others, because some topics are more controversial.
so when i start an o.p i now ask myself what is:-.
@Simon, don't you love that?
The irony is that people getting attacked are sometimes the most gentle, caring people who want everyone to have an equal opportunity and an equal say. Ellen DeGeneres getting attacked by SJWs because [just try and think of the reason anymore] is ridiculous.
This is also where I turn to a Stoic idea to observe nature, including human nature, and not try to go against it all the time. We've been on this planet for 200,000 years and we've been consciously aware for 80,000 years. We're kind of awful. So while we can and should try move the human race forward, we shouldn't really be surprised when it shows its awfulness again.
Edit: I remember. Ellen had a picture of herself riding Usain Bolt. They were having fun and Bolt shared it, too. The snowflakes called it racist and an allusion to slavery. Yeah, no.
to me it seems that there are a growing number of jws who reject a few to most doctrines of jws and yet still believe that they are in "jehovah's organisation.
" i have come across quite a few who for example, reject the 1914 doctrine entirely and yet remain psuedo-jws.. take a look at this page: http://e-jw.org/index.php?threads/the-ultimate-generational-leap-rebuttal.2521/#post-21793.
those are jws who reject 1914 and even the gb.
I tried to attend meetings and gatherings knowing full well that evolution is a fact and with some influence of areligious Buddhism. I had also once thought that we could travel into space in the new system...
It was so surreal. My cognitive dissonance became physically manifested and I had to leave. I don't see how anyone can want to stay if they know this and this and this and that is not true.
what happens if you openly declare you are an aethiest, i don't mean go round forcing my view on everyone , but when pressured to go to the kingdom hall etc you stated you are an aethiest and no longer believe in god , surely you can't be accused of apostasy as you simply don't believe in anything ?
anyone experienced this ?.
I can corroborate that. My wife is not an atheist, but a nurturer who doesn't want to lose her family. She'll listen about some things, but there is a line. I'll gently touch that line sometimes, but not too often, and always with affection. Never just crash into it or expect her to believe everything you've said or thought or read.
Gradual, gradual, be ever so gradual.
when i was younger i used to hear about "marking talks" given in the past.
i believe they stopped in the 80's or 90's.
basically, if someone wasn't baptized or doing something unrepentant, they would get a "marking talk" and be treated the same as a df person.
Nope, those never went away. Nice name change though.
on our local needs part tonight, the elder (on the local ldc), conducting the part, said he just got back from a meeting in memphis tn with members from the us branch rdc conducting the meeting.
they mentioned that only 6 new kingdom halls and 2 major re-models were completed in 2016.
"it may seem like a small accomplishment, considering under the old rbc arrangement there was some 700 projects on the average each year being done", "but, this is going 5-10 years of training to kick this new program into optima production".
At the meeting, The one conducting also said that "Halls that are less than 25 miles from each other only having 1 or 2 assigned, will be closely looked at as to whether they could be reassigned to another hall, and the Kingdom Hall sold off. That way dedicated funds are better utilized."
There are 3 kingdom halls within 25 miles of each other in my area, one of which is a double kingdom hall, each side of which has 1 or 2 congregations. The other 2 halls have 1 or 2 congregations each, and the territory is unresponsive.
So I look forward to hearing about this later.