Posts by schnell

my last post over a month ago was going to be the last considering i wanted to get away from all things jw but this place is much harder to ignore than previously thought.

life has taken some very interesting turns since late last year.

200,000 evacuated last night in Northern California.

by compound complex in

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where a few of us here on the forum live is in an emergency situation.

the main spillway on oroville dam -- the tallest dam in the usa -- is damaged.

the emergency spillway, never used before in the 48 years the dam has operated, is eroding.. major confusion and panic occurred when the order went out sunday, late afternoon: this is not a drill!.

Through legalism, has the WTBT$ and their followers lost their moral compass?

by LarryCope in

in december, i lunched with someone who was at one time quite close and is still a jw.

the topic of the arc ( australian royal commission ) and pedophilia came up.

the two things that was immediately voiced by this person was the two witness rule and that it was homosexuals molesting witness boys parroting the plastic faced stephen lett.this person is not online and has not seen the arc videos or know anything about the silent lambs movement.

schnell

I stopped asking witnesses about their thoughts on the two witness rule because I was sick of being sickened by them.

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Circuit Assemblies in the "Good Old Days"

by BluesBrother in

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just been reminiscing about how c/a's have changed since we were young.

i remember when they started friday night in some rented hall , as well as the two weekend days.

saturday morning was a brief session then field ministry (which only a few performed ) and sunday sessions.. in the free time around the venue we just used to hang out socialising and eyeing up the girls.

schnell

Well, the last assembly my wife and I attended was last year. In a talk from the CO, he stressed the importance of having a large shield if you were a soldier in Judah, because armies back then would shoot arrows with jars of burning oil. All of them. They all had that. Very aerodynamic, and no risk to the archers whatsoever.

Another said that when we do something good in his eyes, Jehovah looks down on us from his throne and smiles. He gulped nervously as he said, "Isn't that a nice thought?"

It is a solid waste of time.

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The Inherent Founding Paganism of the Jehovah's Witnesses

by Finkelstein in

there is an inherent founding association with paganism through and by the founding leader of the watchtower corporation that has to be realized and accepted as such.

c t russell was once the head editorial writer for the wts.

right up until his death in 1916. russell had associated himself with freemasons for awhile, giving talks at freemason halls and handing out literature he published at the same time.. he made up more or less a commercialized version of the gospel based upon a new era for mankind which he calculated by measuring the dimensions of the great pyramid of giza.

schnell

I kind of shrug at this. Christianity and the occult grew up together. It isn't even a matter of wheat and weeds.

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I would like to rant about how I get really upset when I get some weak invitation back to the cult.

by schnell in

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my mother wanted me to know that the co gave a talk that kinda-sorta reprimanded an elder in her hall.

he is not the reason i left at all, and this does not address anything to do with me or our family.. my mother-in-law sent me texts which i ignored and now she has sent a picture to my wife on facebook just for me, and it's a prodigal son meme that says, "you see the signs, come back it's not too late".. yeah, it's not too late to accept a global flood in 2370 bce, or that man was created in 4026 bce from a golem spell, or that an us-and-them cult mentality is at all healthy or loving, or that religion is going to be banned by the un, or that i should expect anyone else at the door to accept these stupid ideas in the information age.. what am i supposed to say?

i usually just ignore them, but before i do that, i see that shit and i storm into this weird internalized rage where i start writing a response and deleting it.

schnell

While I have no family in the WTBT$, I was recently upped at a park by one zealous lady. I listened to her for a bit then asked bout the Kenite Hypothesis as well as Finklestein's view of the establishment of the nation of Israel. This left her in a quandry, so I elucidated both and asked how long she'd been a JW and she said for almost 15 years ( I, myself, have been out for 20 ). I told her I was disassociated, suggested she study thoroughly using comparative Bibles such as the NRSV and NIV and that she should historically research the date 607 B.C.E.
She took off like a scalded cat and even exited the park ( evil grin )

Heh. Unfortunately for them, they do NOT know more about the Bible or Judah and Israel than anyone else on the planet. Yeah, guys, Israel has been studied for over a century, and what we know contradicts the claims of JWism and Bible literalism in general.

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I would like to rant about how I get really upset when I get some weak invitation back to the cult.

by schnell in

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my mother wanted me to know that the co gave a talk that kinda-sorta reprimanded an elder in her hall.

he is not the reason i left at all, and this does not address anything to do with me or our family.. my mother-in-law sent me texts which i ignored and now she has sent a picture to my wife on facebook just for me, and it's a prodigal son meme that says, "you see the signs, come back it's not too late".. yeah, it's not too late to accept a global flood in 2370 bce, or that man was created in 4026 bce from a golem spell, or that an us-and-them cult mentality is at all healthy or loving, or that religion is going to be banned by the un, or that i should expect anyone else at the door to accept these stupid ideas in the information age.. what am i supposed to say?

i usually just ignore them, but before i do that, i see that shit and i storm into this weird internalized rage where i start writing a response and deleting it.

schnell

@scratchme1010, I agree that it's more about them than me, and they wouldn't want to hear what I could easily say.

@Village Idiot, I don't write much or necessarily anything before I let it go. Especially with texts and social media posts/comments, anything too long will only be taken badly.

@Darkknight757, I wish I had family and friends like that, but every JW in my experience wants to talk JW stuff.

Thanks everybody, I'm grateful for the community here where I can vent about this.

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I would like to rant about how I get really upset when I get some weak invitation back to the cult.

by schnell in

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my mother wanted me to know that the co gave a talk that kinda-sorta reprimanded an elder in her hall.

he is not the reason i left at all, and this does not address anything to do with me or our family.. my mother-in-law sent me texts which i ignored and now she has sent a picture to my wife on facebook just for me, and it's a prodigal son meme that says, "you see the signs, come back it's not too late".. yeah, it's not too late to accept a global flood in 2370 bce, or that man was created in 4026 bce from a golem spell, or that an us-and-them cult mentality is at all healthy or loving, or that religion is going to be banned by the un, or that i should expect anyone else at the door to accept these stupid ideas in the information age.. what am i supposed to say?

i usually just ignore them, but before i do that, i see that shit and i storm into this weird internalized rage where i start writing a response and deleting it.

schnell

My mother wanted me to know that the CO gave a talk that kinda-sorta reprimanded an elder in her hall. He is not the reason I left at all, and this does not address anything to do with me or our family.

My mother-in-law sent me texts which I ignored and now she has sent a picture to my wife on Facebook just for me, and it's a Prodigal Son meme that says, "YOU SEE THE SIGNS, COME BACK IT'S NOT TOO LATE".

Yeah, it's not too late to accept a global flood in 2370 BCE, or that man was created in 4026 BCE from a golem spell, or that an us-and-them cult mentality is at all healthy or loving, or that religion is going to be banned by the UN, or that I should expect anyone else at the door to accept these stupid ideas in the information age.

What am I supposed to say? I usually just ignore them, but before I do that, I see that shit and I storm into this weird internalized rage where I start writing a response and deleting it. Anything I say is just going to fly over my mother's or MIL's head and then she'll get mad, so why bother?

What also gets me is just how weak it is. This appeal to emotion is little more than, "Come back! .... We need you! .... Come back!" There isn't anything there. There is no substance. It is an attempt at emotional extortion but that is on them. I'm not the one doing that, that's them. Geez.

So eh.

*shrug*

The cult's crazy. Business as usual.