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  Suspicious Attitude Toward Married Brothers...

  by JW_Rogue in

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  this is kind of different but i just wanted to see if anyone else has experienced this.

  it seems that younger married brothers are viewed with a certain level of suspicion in the congregation.

  it's like the elders can be friendly with everyone in the hall including younger sisters.

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  Why limit it to married and not single brothers? Why only brothers? I've seen this flirt accusation thrown around to people of all sorts.
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  The Q Gospel

  by schnell in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, i'm reading "the lost gospel: the book of q and christian origins" on scribd.

  check it out: https://www.scribd.com/book/163624254.

  if you're not aware (i'm just learning about this), the q is a term for an early "sayings gospel" of yeshua, a document that recorded his sayings rather than his supposed life story.

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  I agree completely, Phizzy. And so much of our JW dogma comes from those fake books, like Acts and the Pastoral letters and Revelation. Ugh. The view on blood transfusions, for instance, is even more untenable when you know Acts 15 is part of a second century forgery.

  I gotta say, I don't get the same encouragement from reading the Bible anymore. Just as with Jesus, if you strip away the mythology and divinity, you find a minority of good advice, and everything else is really flawed and really terrible.

  I could picture an old man telling me the things written in Proverbs, and I imagine just stopping him from time to time so I can disagree. Sure, stay away from thugs and hoes. But don't be afraid to think for yourself or so dependent on others to do the thinking for you! That's terrible!
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  Forget about him on this thread, let's talk about something else!

  by Iamallcool in

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  i am no fan of donald trump at all.

  i am getting tired of seeing trump topics here on jwn.

  i was hoping that hillary clinton would be elected so i can forget about donald trump once and for all.

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  Kraft American cheese is just the worst.
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  Forget about him on this thread, let's talk about something else!

  by Iamallcool in

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  i am no fan of donald trump at all.

  i am getting tired of seeing trump topics here on jwn.

  i was hoping that hillary clinton would be elected so i can forget about donald trump once and for all.

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  https://youtu.be/0GN0rNzojTY
  

  Title says it all.
  
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  Forget about him on this thread, let's talk about something else!

  by Iamallcool in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am no fan of donald trump at all.

  i am getting tired of seeing trump topics here on jwn.

  i was hoping that hillary clinton would be elected so i can forget about donald trump once and for all.

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  So, 2 Corinthians walk into a bar. One ducked.
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  The Academy of Ideas - "Brainwashing"

  by schnell in

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  2. beliefs

  https://youtu.be/8ish2un-b-s. the academy of ideas has got to be one of my favorite youtube channels, and due to his subject matter, he doesn't get a whole lot of views.

  but do give his playlists a watch.

  above, his video on brainwashing is clearly relevant to this forum about jehovah's witnesses.

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  https://youtu.be/8isH2un-B-s

  The Academy of Ideas has got to be one of my favorite YouTube channels, and due to his subject matter, he doesn't get a whole lot of views. But do give his playlists a watch.

  Above, his video on brainwashing is clearly relevant to this forum about Jehovah's Witnesses. John Wesley and Pavlov's dog both come up.

  Another very relevant video is "Neitzsche and the True World", a lecture that discusses belief in a spirit realm/afterlife as well as philosophies of history called "temporal true world theories", which JWs should find very, very familiar.

  https://youtu.be/AO1igh1bQEY

  And I wouldn't leave you hanging there. Clearly the subject of that video involves nihilism. I'm not a religious person -- I am thoroughly done with the religion of my upbringing -- but neither am I nihilistic. Why not? Because I appreciate the positive thinking and overall philosophy of Stoicism, and even more personally, the Hero's Journey of Joseph Campbell makes a whole lot of inspirational sense to me. Your journey, however, begins with you.

  https://youtu.be/-_nLCZ3LKus

  Stoicism: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAYxecbGotUxSZhQ-Gte_UAMs1RQAckSv

  Enjoy, everybody.
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  The Q Gospel

  by schnell in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, i'm reading "the lost gospel: the book of q and christian origins" on scribd.

  check it out: https://www.scribd.com/book/163624254.

  if you're not aware (i'm just learning about this), the q is a term for an early "sayings gospel" of yeshua, a document that recorded his sayings rather than his supposed life story.

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  Another thing that gets me, and I'm by no means the first to notice. The Lord's Prayer contains "As above, so below." And that's pretty weird.

  Let your Kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also on earth.

  Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
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  The Q Gospel

  by schnell in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, i'm reading "the lost gospel: the book of q and christian origins" on scribd.

  check it out: https://www.scribd.com/book/163624254.

  if you're not aware (i'm just learning about this), the q is a term for an early "sayings gospel" of yeshua, a document that recorded his sayings rather than his supposed life story.

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  So, I'm reading "The Lost Gospel: The Book of Q and Christian Origins" on Scribd. Check it out: https://www.scribd.com/book/163624254

  If you're not aware (I'm just learning about this), the Q is a term for an early "sayings gospel" of Yeshua, a document that recorded his sayings rather than his supposed life story. In later decades, this document sort of became old light, as it were, in favor of Paul's epistles and the "narrative gospels" that we refer to as Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

  This Q gospel was used by the authors of the gospel of Matthew and the gospel of Luke, but it was the earlier gospel of Mark that established the basic plot of his mythologized life story, and that too was used in Matthew, Luke, and John.
  

  The idea is that before Paul or the churches in Asia Minor and Syria developed the mythology about Christ as a divine being or son of God that we are more familiar with today, Jesus was basically a Jewish Socrates. I don't personally accept that Yeshua didn't exist, but I believe he was a theist philosopher who got made into a legend.

  And, I think he was a cult leader. I think he was *obviously* a cult leader. If you strip away all the mythology and all the divinity, you're left with a guy saying things like this:

  When another said, “Let me first go and bury my father,” Jesus said, “Leave the dead to bury their dead.”
  

  That's nice. And this:

  Can the blind lead the blind? Won't they both fall into a pit? A student is not better than his teacher. It is enough for a student to be like his teacher.

  (Honest translation: Would I steer you wrong? You're not better than me.)

  To be fair, he was not alone. There were lots of cults at the time, there had been for thousands of years, and there are today as well. From this perspective, Yeshua diminishes in my eyes to a man who preached an ascetic, theistic, apocalyptic philosophy with a persecution complex and an us-and-them world view.

  Sounds familiar.

  Yes, the principle of treating others as you'd like to be treated is a great golden rule. But so much else that's integral to Q and to Christianity is not. I'm not turning the other cheek in every case where someone attacks me, I'm not giving up my shirt if someone takes my coat, I certainly don't think the world is ending, and I love my neighbors enough to not see them as enemies in need of conversion. kthx.
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  Great Tribulation and Trump

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

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  please, let's discuss this subject without attacking one another.. it appears that trump has won a victory that no one expected.

  is it possible that trump may play a part in the great tribulation?.

  there are some who believe trump is one of the most unqualified of men to ever be elected president of the united states.

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  How do you figure since wt sold them their sweet property?
  

  Are you questioning doctrine and prophecy? O_O
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  Great Tribulation and Trump

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  please, let's discuss this subject without attacking one another.. it appears that trump has won a victory that no one expected.

  is it possible that trump may play a part in the great tribulation?.

  there are some who believe trump is one of the most unqualified of men to ever be elected president of the united states.

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  What do you think?
  

  I think Donald Trump will surely declare peace and security when there is no peace, and ban religion regardless of Pence, and target JWs specifically. Then a blue light will come out of the sky and all the heavenly armies will descend on the White House and the Kremlin, the king of the South and the king of the North.