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Hello

by Tobyjones262 in

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new to this forum.

i ran across it when watching lloyd evans videos and searching out jw links.

i left the cult many years ago after a long stint in it.the cult caused me much pain and problems even though i left.

all creationist arguments follow an identical pattern.. first a quick way to remember the format - 'complexity, complexity, complexity; therefore god'.. now a more detailed guide to formulating an argument.. identify some complex feature of the natural world.

a quick google search or nature documentary will quickly provide inspiration.

creationist websites have hundreds of them you can copy-paste without attribution.. do no research at all on what is currently known about the evolutionary history of this feature.

unsure

I came across this article today and it was fitting to share in this thread.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/15-answers-to-creationist/

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Reflecting On Death

by Charles Gillette in

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reflecting on death.

i can't remember, maybe steve jobs before he died.i thought i would share it with you and see what you think about it, and i'm quoting i think from his book.. "i'm about fifty-fifty on believing in god.

for most of my life, i've felt that there must be more to our own existence than meets the eye.. i might be overestimating the odds 50/50 out of a desire to believe in an afterlife.

unsure

"Researchers use mathematics and cell science to conclude that the aging process and death are inevitable, no matter how hard you try."

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/scientists-do-the-math-you-cant-live-forever

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Flawed Website

by pinkpizza in

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when i first seen this website i actually thought it was a jw website hence the home page and not an ex jw website and i posted a topic thinking people were real witnesses then i quickly discovered it was not and all these people were commenting and embarrassing me and i couldn’t even delete the thread.

then i asked the admin to delete it and i said it was very misleading saying it’s a jw page and he’s like are you serious i deleted your topic and now you are attacking me and it clearly says ex jw page.

he was very rude and btw no where does it say ex jw and you should be able to delete your own threads you start.

unsure

Not everyone will agree with my point but the likes on my first post in this thread (not the one you quoted) show that there are active members on these forums who agree with me and don't think my position is incorrect.

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The paranormal.

by Lost in the fog in

i know that a lot of the people on here have turned their backs on the idea of a deity deciding that god does not exist.

but what about the unseen spirit world generally such as poltergeists, jinns, voodoo, etc.

if you have become agnostic, atheist, or just don't care since leaving, do you think that there are spirits out there or have you decided that is also hokum?

unsure

Well said @Xanthippe!

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The paranormal.

by Lost in the fog in

i know that a lot of the people on here have turned their backs on the idea of a deity deciding that god does not exist.

but what about the unseen spirit world generally such as poltergeists, jinns, voodoo, etc.

if you have become agnostic, atheist, or just don't care since leaving, do you think that there are spirits out there or have you decided that is also hokum?

unsure

In my opinion, our universe is huge let alone the possibility of multiverses; I would think there are many unexplained phenomenon that until studied and understood, would seem to be beyond the realm of possibility.

Once again though, at this time, I have no proof or have encountered undeniable proof from others of the paranormal.

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The paranormal.

by Lost in the fog in

i know that a lot of the people on here have turned their backs on the idea of a deity deciding that god does not exist.

but what about the unseen spirit world generally such as poltergeists, jinns, voodoo, etc.

if you have become agnostic, atheist, or just don't care since leaving, do you think that there are spirits out there or have you decided that is also hokum?

unsure

(agnostic here)

You are assigning the natural physical process of evolution to a (possible, who knows?) supernatural metaphysical occurrence. I don't think the two mix.

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The paranormal.

by Lost in the fog in

i know that a lot of the people on here have turned their backs on the idea of a deity deciding that god does not exist.

but what about the unseen spirit world generally such as poltergeists, jinns, voodoo, etc.

if you have become agnostic, atheist, or just don't care since leaving, do you think that there are spirits out there or have you decided that is also hokum?

unsure

Not too long ago, I had a door that is always shut, seemingly open on it's own. I never observed it actually open but it was always closed and something was opening it when people were not around. I was open minded about the possibility of it being a paranormal experience but decided to first try to pursue logical explanation. In the end I debunked this seemingly paranormal experience. There was nothing paranormal about it. It had a perfectly natural explanation.

I guess humans can sometimes be too quick to attribute perfectly natural occurrences to the supernatural.

I would imagine there are unexplained phenomenon in the world but I've never experienced anything that I could attribute to the supernatural.

I still however find the topic and possibility fascinating.

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Secret Dating

by pinkpizza in

so i moved out of my small town into the big city and staying with an older sister i’ve been having some fun in the big city wink wink.

but i have a good standing with the congregation in the city they are nice but don’t really pay a lot of attention to me.

i have been dating a “worldly guy” who is amazing love him but the older sister said he wasn’t allowed in the house.

unsure

(former JW, now agnostic here)

The most Christ-like person I have ever met was a NON-JW. It is funny beacause JWs would most definitely shun her due to her sexual orientation. She is the most forgiving, loving, understanding, kind, non-judgemental person you would hope to ever meet.

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Flawed Website

by pinkpizza in

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when i first seen this website i actually thought it was a jw website hence the home page and not an ex jw website and i posted a topic thinking people were real witnesses then i quickly discovered it was not and all these people were commenting and embarrassing me and i couldn’t even delete the thread.

then i asked the admin to delete it and i said it was very misleading saying it’s a jw page and he’s like are you serious i deleted your topic and now you are attacking me and it clearly says ex jw page.

he was very rude and btw no where does it say ex jw and you should be able to delete your own threads you start.

unsure

I figure they may have been confused as to who they were messaging and the nature of this site.

In my opinion, from the outside looking in, threads of this nature will make people hesitant to join the forums or stick around; it adds creedence to the Watchtower's false description of non-believers and apostates. Being firm yet kind to people on their way out of the Jehovah's Witness cult will go a long way in getting more people to join our cause and be free of the destructive Watchtower cult of Jehovah's Witnesses.