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  Could they make not donating a disfellowshipping offence?

  by purrpurr in

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  i'm wondering at how far the borg could go in begging for money?

  their halls are already resembling the"money changers in the temple".

  as they get sued more and more due to their pedophilic paradise their coffers will be ever more drained.

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  aboveusonlysky

  I could see them wanting to keep tabs on contributions more as time goes on, remember the handing out slips last year for publishers to write what they were willing to contribute? Many genuine jdubs were shocked at that one.

  Contributions to have a column on field service reports? They could say it was for tax reasons and then push the publishers for bank transfers rather than cash to limit the amount of jdubs that would inevitably lie, also contributions would be taken into account when privileges were discussed at elders meetings .

  They love keeping records and power hungry brothers would like it too as it would be a way to literally buy yourself a position, it would also be another way to identify faders.......I really hope they don't read this and get ideas!
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  Great Quote!

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  “growth is painful.

  change is painful.

  but nothing is as painful as staying stuck somewhere you don't belong.”.

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  aboveusonlysky

  Well said bud
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  My brother died last night

  by LisaRose in

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  i found out this morning that my brother died last night, he was also an ex jw, 73 years old and died of heart disease and kidney failure.

  it was not totally unexpected, as he had been in poor health, but it's a blow, especially as i just lost another brother two years ago.

  there were six of us, now only four.

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  aboveusonlysky

  So sorry lisarose, I'm quite new but I've been reading through some of your posts and you're clearly a very caring beautiful person

  Many condolences
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  Contradictions of the "no blood" policy....

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so according to witnesses, the bible states that all blood is sacred, and once it leaves the body's circulatory system it must be "poured out on the ground" to show respect to jehovah.. it mustn't be eaten or transfused.. so how do they justify it being ok to take in fractions of blood components when these have been produced from donated whole blood?.

  the whole blood was not "poured out".

  it was taken to a laboratory, stored, manipulated, put through processes to separate parts of it, broken down etc.... it certainly was not "dealt with in a sacred way".. and yet these blood fractions are deemed "ok" by the society?.

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  aboveusonlysky

  "So how do they justify it being ok to take in fractions of blood components when these have been produced from donated whole blood?"

  Is it possible that the GB need to have blood fractions when they are inoculated for traveling around the world?

  if so the whole blood fractions thing could be just for their own benefit.
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  So can you pray for others that are not JW's ? Or only JW's

  by tor1500 in

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  i'm a witness, so i need to know...can we pray for someone that isn't a jw.

  reason i ask, once a friend of mine was going for an operation.

  i asked an elder could he pray with her before she goes into the hospital.

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  aboveusonlysky

  "Can we pray for someone who isn't a JW"

  1Tim 2:1 "First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgiving be made concerning all sorts of men"

  Matt 5:44 "However, I say to you: Continue to love your enemies and to pray for those who persecute you"

  That's what the Bible says, but if an elder says different......
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  “Even if this wasn’t the Truth, I need the structure.”

  by Londo111 in

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  i remember many years back a fellow ministerial servant saying this to me.

  he felt that even if jehovah’s witnesses were not the only true religion, the regimented routine of meetings and field service and the strict rules and enforcement provided a beneficial structure for his life.

  at the time i thought if this wasn’t “the truth”, i’d have no need for all that “structure”.

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  1 cor 15 'But if Christ has not been raised up, our preaching is certainly in vain, and your faith is also in vain.......we are to be pitied more than anyone.'

  One thing the bible got right, no matter what structure the org seemingly provides, all the ministry/meetings/study are ultimately a big waste of time.
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  Germany start a comission against child-abuse

  by crazy_flickering_light in

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  2. child-abuse

  if you live in germany, please share your story.

  if not, please spread this link.

  i'm so sorry, this is my first topic.

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  aboveusonlysky

  Thanks for sharing the info and welcome to the forum, Germany is a lovely country and so is Scotland.
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  Today's Study - Shun Disfellowshipped Family, Don't Marry Outsiders, Tell On Others!

  by Divergent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  urghhh... what a disgusting study!7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.

  for example, a sister named anne received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.

  the mother wanted to visit anne because she felt pained by her isolation from the family.

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  aboveusonlysky

  I was wondering, has there ever been a letter or petition campaign to try and get stricter laws against organizational shunning?
  With this wt article and this summers assembly content all the evidence is there that the org are denying basic human rights. What if lots of people wrote at once to the government about it? Letters can be confidential or even anonymous. Just an idea.
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  A big thanks to all you good good people

  by aboveusonlysky in

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  "when the truth is found to be lies, and all the joy within you dies" jefferson airplane.

  until that is you find websites like this!

  i want to say a big thank you to all of you for everything i've learned here, as well as jwfacts, jwsurvey, coc, isocf etc.. i'm a born in and i spent more than two decades of my adult life in full time 'service' for the (b)org.

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  Thanks for the support guys

  Billy that's so true, they tell you God is not unrighteous to forget your work and then bludgeon you to death with the big fat judgmental rafter in their eye the minute you say something they don't like.

  Oppostate, you're right I have no pre cult personality, Satan and the big A were there from the start. After reading 'combating cult mind control' (I literally couldn't put it down, Hasan is a genius!) I'm hoping to develop a good post cult personality.
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  To all my fellow sufferers at this "special" meeting today

  by purrpurr in

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  how are we all faring?

  are we learning anything?

  how are we coping?

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  aboveusonlysky

  'I went to the toliet and was "very naughty" let's just say I made myself very happy 😎'

  Lol! Please please please tell me you used the kingdom hall WiFi to help you!

  Can you imagine the local needs!