I've read your story before, Randy, but it's always interesting.
Do you remember Bethelites Jim Lupo and Tim Lockhart around that time? Tim was the brother-in-law of Walden Chin, whom I'm sure you remember!
They were all good friends of mine.
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My Story part 1: Surviving My Youth and the Early Bethel Years
by Dogpatch inthe story of randall wattersmy story part 1: .
surviving my youth and the early bethel years.
randy at 15 with moe .
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My Story part 1: Surviving My Youth and the Early Bethel Years
by Dogpatch inthe story of randall wattersmy story part 1: .
surviving my youth and the early bethel years.
randy at 15 with moe .
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I've read your story before, Randy, but it's always interesting.
Do you remember Bethelites Jim Lupo and Tim Lockhart around that time? Tim was the brother-in-law of Walden Chin, whom I'm sure you remember!
They were all good friends of mine.
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Charlie Rose Saves His Mac book Air Laptop with his face
by kwr inhttp://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/17/charlie-rose-face-plants-to-save-his-macbook-air/.
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I love Charlie's show. I've been watching this week, and he really smack his face up!
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Kevin Garrett is with the Celtics now, and playing awesome ball!
It seems his mom is a JW - but not Kevin. He hid the fact from her that he was playing basketball during high school! Now that he's a mega-millionaire and one of the greatest basketball players ever, she's probably a little more understanding.
He commented recently that he really does up Christmas big, as he only began celebrating it when he turned 18!
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Sex and JWs I want to know what you think "he played the God Card"
by jonie ini was a jw but left about 8 years ago, my husband wanted to go back so we have tried, i did not do so good.
being gone so long just helped me realize this is totally false, i look at the jws as lambs being lead to their deaths.. fast forward to now, we are both in our 40s and i have had medical side effects from using birth control and other meds as birth control.
my body can not take anymore, i have suffered breast cyst and uterus cyst, so i asked my husband who has an issue with using condoms because he does not reach a climax, and has to masturbate, to use something that would offer us a permanent result such as him getting a vasectomy.. his reaction is like why i feel even more strongly that jws are wrong.
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If your husband says he won't wear a condom because he can't have an orgasm, and that he thinks having a vasectomy will make him gay - well, your husband has a LOT of serious problems!!
I doesn't sound like he's the type you can do much reasoning with, or that he does much reasoning at all. Get your tubes tied to protect yourself and maybe getting away from this guy might also be a real good thing! He doesn't sound like much of a prize.
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I hate people that make me feel inferior!
by Princess Daisy Boo ini am generally a confident, happy woman.
i have good friends and family who laugh at my jokes, value my opinions and generally like me... and then once in a while, i come into contact with a person who makes me feel like a nobody.
an overweight, unsuccessful, unintelligent nobody.
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I guess the obvious answer is that no one can MAKE you feel anything. They can try to make you feel inferior, and you can cooperate by feeling that way.
Of course, it's easy to say that, but very hard to have the confidence to really BE that way. But it's worth the time and effort to develop that attitude.
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what did you get dissfellowshipped for and were you once "strong"
by looloo inin the truth (as they say) were people really shocked at you leaving or thought of it as only a matter of time !
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I was a super Witness - Elder, Assembly Overseer, Pioneer, Pioneer School instuctor, elder's school instructor, spoke at every circuit assembly and district convention for about 20 years.
People were pretty shocked when I left. In fact, a CO told me that when he told another brother in the northern part of our circuit that I had left the Witnesses, the brother pulled the car over to the side of the road and started crying.
I guess that was a typical reaction.
I've never been informed that I was disfellowshipped, though I heard it through the grapevine that it was announced that I was no longer one of JWs. They had a few reasons, but most likely because I was living with my girlfriend!
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I've been friends with several Gilead grads and a few instructors.
I don't know of any drop outs, though that may have happened. I do know one brother who was on a plane home, at his own expense I believe, about 24 hours after he arrived at his assignment.
I have several friends who spent a few years on foreign assignments and ended up coming home - most of them suffering from the long term affects of malaria or similar diseases. Africa was especially devastating for Americans. I also know that culture shock is massive among many missionaries, again especially in Africa.
I know of at least one graduate who was never sent on assignment but ended up being a Special Pioneer in the US New England. I'll try to remember his name. He was a Lou, I think, and his wife was a Rosalie, and an "ini" Italian-type last name. He'd been a dock worker and a professional boxer, a city guy real rough around the edges and not well educated. I don't believe he was ever even appointed as an elder. How he got approved for Gilead is a real question.
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Jehovah's Witnesses - A Hijacked Religion
by B_Deserter inthe more and more i read about the history of the witnesses, the more i don't see them as one in the same as charles t. russell's religion.
i think the religious movement from 1874 to 1916 was completely different than the one from 1918 to now.
rutherford is the real founder of jehovah's witnesses.
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This is an interesting and provocative thread. I've studied the origins of the WTS quite a bit over the years, and I'd have to say that this agrees with a lot of what I've read.
If you read Russell's writings, they are a far cry from what JWs believe now. But then, that's also true of Rutherford.
A case could be made that every 50 years or so, the Jehovah's Witnesses are a religion that has to reinvent itself by shedding the previous generation's ideas.
Rutherford cast aside Russell's, Franz and Knorr cast aside much of Rutherford's, and now they are trying to get rid of much of what Franz came up with. One problem is that there are no thinkers now in the WTS with either the intellectual kutzpah or the balls to the wall personality of one of those four former heavyweights.
Good thread.
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Prince is getting a hip replacement........
by Bryce inand, correct me if i'm wrong, often this surgery requires blood.
problem: prince has been a baptized and devoted j-dub since 2001 (even passing out wt's during concerts).
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Last I heard, Prince was still a JW, but there have been some serious bumps in the road lately that make me wonder:
His wife divorced him, and there is no mention of his remarrying. Sort of hard to imagine Prince remaining celibate for the last 2 to 3 years, eh??!! Especially with him being on tour, etc.
He gave what is considered one of the finest Superbowl half time performances in 2007. Yet, it was intentionally very sexualized, including having his shadow cast on his backdrop holding his guitar in such a way as to be very obviously phallic in nature. Was it just because he was so horny due to his divorce and assumed celibacy, or was he giving the opposite message? Was he again proclaiming his satyric royalty, Prince, the King of Horny Young Dudes?
Also, he performed "All Along the Watchtower" during that set. Again a mixed message. Was he slyly giving the high-five to fellow JWs? Or was he saying FU to the WTS? I mean, apart from one word, "watchtower," the song is Bob Dylan and Jimi Hendrix, the epitome of worldly and anti-JW thinking!!
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