I was in a long marriage - 33 years - that broke up due to my own actions about 4 years ago. I'm in a relationship now where my partner wants to get married, but I am so totally ambivalent about marriage after losing that first relationship.
I'd say if you can be with someone and stay truly in love with them and passionate about them, even with all the changes that time brings, that would be my ideal. I couldn't do it. I still love my ex-wife, I just lost passion for her, and I couldn't live that way.
I'm in a committed relationship now, but wonder about marriage when I see how things can change with time. The whole concept of swearing undying love for someone for all eternity seems so unrealistic to me. Considering that most marriages end in divorce, I think the facts support my view.
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Is it better to stay married one time or have been married couple of times?
by asilentone ini know it is a hard question, i would like to know your thoughts.
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I feel like I'm being pushed away
by heybaby inok, so here's my story as it stands right now.
my husband and i have been married for 6 1/2 years.
about 2 weeks after we were married, he was appointed as a ministerial servant.
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Heybaby, you are waking up! Lots of people here who share your experiences.
It can be a bit frightening and exhilerating, so enjoy the ride. You're in good company here!
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Promiscuous or sexually free?
by brunnhilde inso i'm 37 and i've only been with one man, my ex-husband, in my entire life.
i just started a new relationship with a wonderful man but i'm fighting the preprogramming that comes from being a dub for 35 years.
how have other people overcome the inhibitions and issues that come from the ridiculously rigid sexual mindset of the wtbs?
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Practice, practice, practice!
First time difficult. Then it gets easier and easier, funner and funner!
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Singer Songwriters who should be household names....
by hillary_step inover the decades musicians rise and fall like a spring wind.
some stay where they should never be, some never are where they should be; such is the roulette of time.
this thread is dedicated to singer songwriters who influence the rest of the best, but are seldom known - 'gamblers in the neon, clinging to guitars...' .
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Amicus,
Thanks for the Ry and Todd links. I've enjoyed their music for a long time. In fact, as I was playing for Lori last night, I was saying how it might have been nice to pursue a career in music. I told her, "I'd have enjoyed doing it the way Ry Cooder did, just finding and playing music that interested you without any concern for recording the next Top 20 hit."
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A JWD poll - Using the Forum
by Lady Lee ini'm interested in why you came and why you stay.
searching the net for info about jwscame from another websitefriend told me about otheron an emotional level where were you when you first came here?.
frustrated or fed up with jws and wts needed some info and support from other people who may feel the same waywas dfed or daed and felt lost and alonewas involved with a jw and needed info about this religion that was interfering with the relationshipotherhow long did you read before you started posting?.
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I'm interested in why you came and why you stay.
Why did you first come here?
3. friend told me about - Actually, Bill Bowen recommended this site in a hone conversation.
On an emotional level where were you when you first came here?
5. other - I'd faded from the JWs for some time. I used to post regularly on the old H2O site. I knew it wasn't the truth.
How long did you read before you started posting?
1. almost immediately
If you go back in your history what was your first post?
4. other - It was an update on the Dateline program, which was in the works at that time - Feb. 2001. It got shuttled off for months following the events of 9/11. I'd been involved with Bill and Barb working with the producer of the Dateline story in the background.
Have you gone through the archives (older posts) to. . . .
3. used the Best of . . . section to research various topics - At times.
If you have been here for a while why do you stay
1. social benefits - hanging out with friends
3. research
4. need support during the rough times
5. helping others
6. other - Those are the main reasons. I like being a resource for people when they are on their way out. Writing here helps me get things out and sharpens the mind.
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Singer Songwriters who should be household names....
by hillary_step inover the decades musicians rise and fall like a spring wind.
some stay where they should never be, some never are where they should be; such is the roulette of time.
this thread is dedicated to singer songwriters who influence the rest of the best, but are seldom known - 'gamblers in the neon, clinging to guitars...' .
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Wow, you really started something here, hilary step! Loving some of the new people I'm getting introduced to here.
Amicus - You should listen to that station. If you're into hearing some great new music. And I loved Moby Grape - the early years. 8:05 is one of my favorite pieces. Luscious guitar work. And I have the album with the infamous cover - one of the guys giving the finger. Also was a Pentangle, Renbourn and Jansch fan. I'm a guitarist.
But hs, I have to disagree that we might sound stuck in the past - the list of singer/songwriters I gave you has performers from their 20s to their 60s - maybe older. Some of them are just starting their careers. I don't believe age has a hell of a lot to do with it. And I also think there is some great new music being written. Bands like The Blood Oranges, Twisted Still, The Green Cards, Red Molly in addition to the other list.
The other thing that you really started was that last night I was talking with Lori - my girl there in the avatar - about this thread and we ended up listening to tons of our music for hours last night. I've been learning some new songs - Eaglesmith, Josh Ritter, Leonard Cohen, some other stuff new and old – so I played and sang those for her and then we just started listening to song after song from these performers that I mentioned. Turned into a great - and VERY romantic – night. Great music and great sex is a winning combination!
Thanks for the thread!!
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Singer Songwriters who should be household names....
by hillary_step inover the decades musicians rise and fall like a spring wind.
some stay where they should never be, some never are where they should be; such is the roulette of time.
this thread is dedicated to singer songwriters who influence the rest of the best, but are seldom known - 'gamblers in the neon, clinging to guitars...' .
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hilary step and Avishai - we could hang together. Very much into the same music. There are a few folks here who are just not getting it! I wish I knew how to post those YouTube links. You really need to check out any of the names I mentioned that you're not familiar with.
I live in a small town where a concert producer who handles this kind of music moved a decade or so ago (he has worked with Nanci Griffin, Martin Sexton, Dar Williams, Richard Shindell, Ray LaMontagne, Shawn Colvin) and he would put on these shows here in a few venues getting in performers between their bigger shows in Boston, Montreal, Northamptan, MA and Albany, NY.
So we'd have Ray LaMontagne play with maybe a dozen people there, or a Lori McKenna, who now is touring with Faith Hill and Tim McGraw. Marty Sexton showed up one night to watch his sister play and he joined her on stage. I saw Eric Taylor one night and then watched him on his own hour of Austin City Limits two months later!
I forgot Peter Mulvey, Greg Brown, Mary Gauthier, John Gorka (his Blue Chalk is a great song) we literally have had hundreds of these great singer/songwriters play here. Christ, Richard Shindell will be here in concert a week from Friday! You'd love to live here.
You'll also love that the guy that puts on all these concerts, Charlie Hunter, calls his company Flying Under Radar.
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Singer Songwriters who should be household names....
by hillary_step inover the decades musicians rise and fall like a spring wind.
some stay where they should never be, some never are where they should be; such is the roulette of time.
this thread is dedicated to singer songwriters who influence the rest of the best, but are seldom known - 'gamblers in the neon, clinging to guitars...' .
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I don't think Bernie Tupin, Carole Bayer Sager, Rod Stewart and some of the others mentioned here fit the "songwriters who should be household names but nobody hs heard of them category!" All those folks are super famous.
Now Nanci Griffith, Colin Hay, John Prine, Iris Dement, Ray LaMontagne, John Hiatt, Martin Sexton, Townes Van Zandt - that's more like it!
Let me add some great under the radar songwriters to the list, and I'll recommend some YouTube songs to listen to them play.
Fred Eaglesmith - My Ship Needs A Place to Land
Colin Hay – I don't Think I'll Ever Get Over You
Richard Shindell - The Boat (One of the greatest living songwriters, bar none)
Dar Williams – When I Was a Boy
(If those songs don't raise the hair on the back of your neck, you have no passion.)
Jon Dee Graham
Alejandro Escovedo (though, at 55, he just signed a major record contract and is opening for Bruce Springsteen, who has loved his music for years, so he may not be unknown for long)
Don Conoscenti
Hayes Carll
Eric Taylor
Robbie Fulks
Chris Whitley - died a couple of years ago, but one of the great ones. Listen to the first four cuts on the Big Sky Country CD.
Sarah Borges
Josh Ritter - Kathleen
Chris Knight
Ridley Bent
I do a lot of A&E writing, and I sort of specialize in profiling and reviewing singer/songwriters in alt country, indie folk and rock, etc., so this is under the radar stuff of super quality writers and performers is right up my alley!
Thanks for bringing some new names to my attention!
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Juts for fun: Stupid reasons why you WON'T leave the JWs
by outofthebox inhere is mine: .
i have to much money invested in ties and suits, i can't leave!!
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Sure do. How do you think I washed down the burritos??
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Juts for fun: Stupid reasons why you WON'T leave the JWs
by outofthebox inhere is mine: .
i have to much money invested in ties and suits, i can't leave!!
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You either loved or hated the burritos at DCs. I LOVED them!
But I think the real reason I won't leave is the education. If eight years of reading the Awake! equals a four year degree, I could easily become the most highly educated man on Earth. My employment and income potentials are essentially unlimited.
I just can't figure out why the 40 years of Awake! reading doesn't impress employers as much as it does JWs. For Christ's sake man, that's like FIVE degrees I've got!!!!
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