Only your 3rd try?? Hell, I struggled over and over to make it a habit, and it's still a struggle. I just dropped down to a 2-3 times a week minimum maintenance program for the past month due to a couple of illnesses. I never worry about that - I just start back up again full tilt as soon as I feel up to it. I never think of being on a 3-week, 3-month or whatever exercise program. It's a program for the rest of my life.
EVERYONE struggles with making exercise a habit. You just can't beat yourself up about it. If you miss a day, you miss a day. Forget that and just get back at it the next day.
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~ Your feelings on aging ~
by FlyingHighNow inso, we aren't going to stay young and never die.
how do you feel about aging, especially those of you that are over 35?
aging poses some concerns for me, especially since i am 49 and pretty much single.
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What do you think fellow posters think of you?
by JH ini guess people think "photoshop" when they think of me.
yep, i love that.. oh, they also must think i have a screw loose .
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I think Mouthy is awesome.
If anyone here actually thinks of me, it's probably in sentences that contain the words "arrogant prick." Or perhaps "conceited asshole."
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~ Your feelings on aging ~
by FlyingHighNow inso, we aren't going to stay young and never die.
how do you feel about aging, especially those of you that are over 35?
aging poses some concerns for me, especially since i am 49 and pretty much single.
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You can do it, lonelysheep! Most people tell Lori they think she's in her mid-30s. When she had her daughters, she left the hospital both times in her misses size 4 jeans.
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Were You Skeptical of "the Annointed Ones" in Your Congregation?
by BabaYaga insorry in advance to all of the ones on this forum now, who partook while jw.
i have to say that in my experience, having known personally several who were "of the annointed", most were absolutely dingy.
the only exception was the little ancient gal who had attended the early convention where all attendees were "annointed" en masse!
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Knew a bunch of the anointed, and was skeptical of most of them:
I knew several of the old time anointed, people who had been around and knew Russell! DeGrofs from Granville, NY congregation, Bro. Thompson from Rutland, VT.
Then there were the many, many "young" anointed, the ones who decided they were anointed some 40 or 60 years after the group was supposedly completed:
May (Mallette) Ely in the Bellows Falls, VT, and NY state congregations: a background of severe abuse. She was one that a COs wife noted as part of a lot of women who hit menopause and suddenly became anointed ones back in the 1980s!
Joel Friedman, an elder in the Bennington, VT congregation and last I heard a CO. Hot shot younger elder, up and coming and a company man at the time. Acted very humble, but I agree with the comment above that there is a highly inflated sense of self-importance going on in someone deciding that god has suddenly picked them out of the 6 billion to rule with him.
An elder in Massachusetts, who was also some sort of alternative medicine guy. Was odd, and eventually began to also feel that he had some sort of healing power in himself when he touched people. He got into a feud with another elder that got so bad they were both removed. Might have been in the Orange congregation.
A brother in Orange, MA, I think. He had a genius IQ, but couldn't function well enough in the real world to hold a job. Lived with his Mom, though he was middle aged.
Bob Matwijcow - was in several congregations in Vermont and in NY. Was an elder, but often knocked heads with other brothers, which was why he often went from congregation to congregation. Really took his anointing seriously, and expected everyone else to as well. He'd write the Society, and rightly so, as all of the anointed are supposed to be part of the F&DS. Yeah, sure!! Don't think it ever did much good. At one point he was disfellowshipped for immorality with his step-daughter. Reinstated and still an anointed JW the last I heard.
There are more....
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~ Your feelings on aging ~
by FlyingHighNow inso, we aren't going to stay young and never die.
how do you feel about aging, especially those of you that are over 35?
aging poses some concerns for me, especially since i am 49 and pretty much single.
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Mouthy - I'm actually not that lousy with math...!
LouBelle - My partner and I have seriously been discussing the idea of getting certified as personal trainers. She has a daughter who is a fitness competitor and personal trainer, and we've talked with her about it. I'm one of those obsessive people who finds out everything about something once I get an interest.
My partner, Lori, (that's us in the avatar) will be 50 next month, but she is in remarkable shape. She's been an athlete for over 20 years now, and I'm not exaggerating when I say that she's got an amazing body for a 20 year old - not to talk about a woman nearly 50!
All the time when we're out in the summer and she has a t-top on and you can see her arms, back and shoulders, other women will come up and ask her,"I want to look like that! How do you do it? Are you a personal trainer?" I don't know how to put this delicately, but she has an ass to die for. For myself, the last time I was stress tested a couple of years ago, I had the physiology of someone 20 years younger, and I'm in considerably better shape now than I was then. So, I know what persistent exercise can do for you physically and in aging.
I do think there are more aches and pains with age - but that's why god invented Ibuprofen and aspirin!!
FlyingHighNow - I went through a difficult breakup of a long time marriage a few years ago and the fallout that happens with your kids over something like that. Exercise in some ways has been my salvation. I understand what a struggle life can be at times, and I send you my deepest regards and hopes for a happy future.
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Photos of you with someone famous?
by sacolton inanyone have any pictures of themselves with someone famous (singer, actor, author, etc.)?.
i got a chance to meet paul williams (singer/actor) of "phantom of the paradise" and composer of great many songs like.
"just an old fashioned love song", "the rainbow connection", "you and me against the world", "we've only just begun", etc .... .
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In my newspaper and journalism work I get to photograph and publish pics of a lot of famous people, but I'm always behind the camera. There are people who have photographed me with C. Everret Coop and Howard Dean, but I don't have copies!
I've photographed BB King, Buddy Guy, Rascal Flatts, Lee Ann Womack, John Hiatt, Clint Black, Howard Dean, Saul Bellow, Ken Burns, the Bellamy Brothers, Richard Shindell, Wolf Kahn, James McMurtry, Fred Eaglesmith, Hayes Carll, Jon Dee Graham, Iris Dement, Dar Williams, Josh Ritter, George Jones, Shelby Lynne, Spyro Gyra, Carlos Santana.
Those are the ones I can think of right off.
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~ Your feelings on aging ~
by FlyingHighNow inso, we aren't going to stay young and never die.
how do you feel about aging, especially those of you that are over 35?
aging poses some concerns for me, especially since i am 49 and pretty much single.
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Mouthy - You and I were baptized the same year! Only I was11. You must have been at least a teenager!
restrangled - Steady pace riding on a stationary bike is good, but if you could do what is known as High Intensity Interval Training (HIIT) or Extreme Interval Fat Burning (EIFB) you would see a huge difference in way less time. You can look both of those up online and get some great direction, but in a nutshell, they incorporate what research has shown to be very important - that you increase and decrease the intensity of your efforts during the course of a run. It's why road biking or running is so much better than with a machine - you naturally have an increase in effort when the terrain gets steeper.
On a bike it would mean starting out with say a 10min warmup at about 50% of your fastest pace, then over the next 5 to 10 minutes increasing your speed and effort by 10% or so every minute or two, until you are going all out at the fastest pace you can maintain for 1-2 minutes max. Then you drop back down to say a 60% recovery pace and do it all over again. And then again. A ride like that would be many times more effective in developing fitness and in burning bodyfat than say riding for an hour at one steady pace. I mean that HIIT for 30-45 minutes would probably be 10 times as effective inincreasing your fitness and in burning body fat as a steady, sustainable pace for an hour or two.
You also mentioned one of the things that growing older gives you - time for yourself. It's a lot easier to take an hour for yourself to exercise now than it is when you've got babies, etc. Yet it's as valuable time spent as can be. BizzyBee and her husband are just what I'm talking about.
If you're riding a bike an hour a day and are even a few pounds overweight, then you're probably not getting anywhere near the training effect from it that you should be getting. Not being able to lift things also sounds odd at your age. It seems you have other physical ailments.
I can tell you this with certainty - to combat aging, every exercise program HAS to include exercise that raises your heart rate to near capacity such as intense interval running, swimming, biking, etc., you MUST lift weights, heavy weights where the last few reps are all you can do and at a pace that also increases your heart rate (did you realize that weightlifting can in its own way be aerobic?), and you need to include stretching and core work such as yoga, core synergistics, etc. You also have to workout a MINIMUM of 4-5 times a week, and you have to restrict your food intake calorie wise, and make those calories the best possible fuel - lean meats, whole grains, vegetables and fruits.
If you do that, you can maintain the physical ability and fitness level of a healthy, athletic 30 to 40 year old for the majority of a very long life. I'm doing it and I've seen it done over and over and over. That doesn't mean you won't die of cancer at 55 - but it really stacks the odds in your favor that that WON"T happen, and if it does you'll still have been able to get so much more out of life due to your superb level of fitness.
It sounds like you may have arthritis. I know very little about that. But you should check out how diet, exercise, etc. can help you there.
What I see about aging, especially here in the US, is that the vast majority of people get old, fat and out of shape - and that's what the culture expects to happen to older people, though it's completely unnecessary. In my office I'm the oldest and by far in the best shape, and everyone else would have a BMI easily in the overweight category and most of them would range into the obese level. One is thin - but she smokes. It's not a healthy looking thin!
I'd be willing to bet that the majority of people here who are really feeling the physical effects of aging would say they are "a few pounds over their ideal weight." Be honest. Do a BMI (Body Mass Index) test. It's simple. You can find them all over the Net. That test is likely to say that you're overweight or even obese. Find out what you should weigh. There are also simple tests you can find online to tell you what your bodyfat percentage is. If you're a guy and your bodyfat is over 20%, you're too fat. Mid to low teens would be good, getting into the 10% or so range is better. Ladies can go 5 points higher or so. And honestly assess how often a week you exercise strenuously enough to get your heart rate up into it's target zone - essentially in the range of 200 minus your age.
If you're not taking care of yourself, you can expect to be feeling all those effects of old age, and at a very young age - 30, 40, 50, 60. I just don't consider 60 or 70 to be especially old.
It can be rough to start out for the first few weeks, but you can literally take decades off your physical age in 3 to 6 months of serious exercise and a good eating plan. That's all it takes, less than half a year, for most people to go from fat and unconditioned to lean and extremely fit. And once you get fit, it's way, way easier to maintain that. And the whole process can be fun as hell. Remember playing as a kid? That's what exercise should be like - that same joy of movement and strength and exertion you had as a kid jumping rope or playing ball.
Most people will never do it, and because of that, we expect that fat and feeble is the norm for the aged. It doesn't have to be.
Use it or lose it.
Now I need to get some exercise by stepping down off my soapbox!! Sorry, I'm just passionate about this. I see all this unnecessary suffering and disease, when we could do so much about it if we just took control of our own lives and bodies.
OK, again stepping down off soapbox....
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by FlyingHighNow inso, we aren't going to stay young and never die.
how do you feel about aging, especially those of you that are over 35?
aging poses some concerns for me, especially since i am 49 and pretty much single.
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Exercise isn't just a good idea - it's VITAL! And of course it isn't a cure-all - NOTHING is. We're all going to die, and we're all going to be a day older tomorrow.
That's not the point. It's how you LIVE until you die that's important.
Depression isn't just a problem of the old - kids get depressed. Suicide is common among teenagers. BUT, exercise is also one of the finest anti-dotes to many types of depression.
I belong to another thread where I'm watching thousands of people grow younger before my eyes due to intense, regular exercise. It's not going to make the impossible happen, but it sure as hell can prevent a ton of shit that most people expect to happen just because they've reached 50 or 70. I'm actually kind of shocked on this thread when I'm reading comments from people in their 30s or 40s talking about growing old.
That's pathetic. I'm figuring those things should be coming from somebody who's 75 or 85 - not 45!
You should read the article about Don Wildman I mentioned. He's not thrilled that he's getting older, but he's doing something about it, and that's what I'm talking about. We'll all be another year older in a year, nothing any of us can do about that. BUT, you can do something to make yourself one of the fittest, most bad ass 45 or 55 or 65 or 75 or 85 year olds on the planet.
Stop whining about growing old, accept the shit that comes with time and prevent the stuff that's got nothing to do with aging but is just the result of letting yourself fall apart.
Take control of as much of the aging as you can.
I've got some stuff for restrangled, and I'll add it later.
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Why no dub buzz over the new generation change?
by oompa inor have i just missed it?
i finally had to tell my active wife about it....the wt lesson is next week but she has not read it yet, and none of her friends have mentioned it to her.
big buzz in 1995 when i was active, but hear very little except here now.
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The 1914 Generation change in 1995 was what made me leave the WTS - along with other things, but that was major.
Most in my congregation had no idea what the change was or what it meant. One of the very last talks I gave on the school, shortly after 1995, was to lay out all recent changes in WTS teachings (1914, sheep and goats, etc.) and explain clearly what they all meant so everyone would understand. And, I did it in less than six minutes!
You could have heard a pin drop, and there were all sorts of mouths gaped open. One older sister came up to me after the meeting and said she was shocked that all of this had just gone over her head - and she was one of the better students in the congregation!
Yeah, there be others like me that'll find this too much to take. The rest will miss it completely.
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Anyone Here Attend the New PO Elder's School?
by Seeker4 inmy ex-father-in-law just got back from the first elder's school for the presiding overseers.
anyone else attend?
anyone hear anything about it?
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My ex-father-in-law just got back from the first elder's school for the presiding overseers. Anyone else attend? Anyone hear anything about it?
I have a feeling there is nothing new taught there. My guess is that this is intended to tighten up the screws on everyone! Get 'em all in line and make sure the goose steps are synchornized.
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