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  This looks interesting - odd - unusual to say the least!

  by AK - Jeff in

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  has anyone read it?

  http://www.honeymoonwithmybrother.com/.

  jeff .

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  Gotta give my bro a call - we could both use a honeymoon!
  
  Now, who could I ask to marry me that WOULDN'T show up for the wedding?? Christ, this'll take forever. ALL the marriageable women I know want me!!
  
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  Don't Be Bullied ...

  by compound complex in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k2ea8swhh8.

  amazing choir boy - andrew johnston.

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  You bastard! I'm sitting at work trying to make sure no one sees me wiping my eyes!
  
  That first note...my god. Chills. Good for you Andrew.
  
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  Why Are Barb Anderson's Comments Missing from Silentlamb's NBC Transcript?

  by Seeker4 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a few weeks ago i was checking out a few details on line about the nov. 12, 2007 nbc broadcast concerning the wts settlement on the west coast pedophile cases, and the release of the court documents on cd by barbara anderson.

  i think it was lisa meyers who interviewed barbara, and brian williams was hosting.

  well, i figured silentlambs had a transcript of the show, and i went there, only to find that they indeed had the transcript, but all of barbara's portion of the interview was oddly missing, and there was no link to the video.

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  Here's Bill's version of this transcript on Silentlambs. You'll see what I mean about the missing paragraphs when you compare the two.
  
  http://www.silentlambs.org/newevidencenbc.htm
  
  Could someone activate that link for me? Thanks!
  
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  Why Are Barb Anderson's Comments Missing from Silentlamb's NBC Transcript?

  by Seeker4 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a few weeks ago i was checking out a few details on line about the nov. 12, 2007 nbc broadcast concerning the wts settlement on the west coast pedophile cases, and the release of the court documents on cd by barbara anderson.

  i think it was lisa meyers who interviewed barbara, and brian williams was hosting.

  well, i figured silentlambs had a transcript of the show, and i went there, only to find that they indeed had the transcript, but all of barbara's portion of the interview was oddly missing, and there was no link to the video.

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  Yes, that's the NBC transcript. Thanks!
  
  What I found disturbing is that Bill Bowen left out these three paragraphs that mention and quote Barbara Anderson when he reproduced the transcript on Silentlambs:
  
  "Barbara Anderson, a former church member and a vocal critic of the organization on this issue, contends that Jehovah’s Witnesses policies “protect pedophiles rather than protect the children.” Anderson recently compiled documents from the lawsuits on a CD titled “Secrets of Pedophilia in an American Religion.”
  
  Anderson says she first focused on the controversy in the early 1990s when she worked at the Watchtower Society headquarters in Brooklyn and was assigned to deal with letters from church members complaining of abuse. While conducting that research, she says she discovered that in its internal proceedings against accused molesters, the church applies a biblically based “two-witness” rule. “They require another witness to the actual molestation,” Anderson says, “which is an impossibility.”
  
  Anderson also claims that she discovered the church headquarters kept track of sexual abuse cases in confidential files."
  
  It was presented on Silentlambs as THE transcript, when it was only a part of it, and that should have been made clear. I'm afraid that it looks like Bill let his personal animosity toward Barbara get in the way of ethical journalism. Maybe he can give us a reasonable explanation? If not, people at least need to be aware of what Bill did.
  
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  What are some of your memories pre 1975?

  by karter in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  going to an international assembly 1974 and one of the gb leo greenlees saying"this will most likely be the last international assembly this side of armageddon".. poeple selling their houses.. storing up food.. wondering what went wrong on dec 31 1975!.

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  My wife and I were young Reg. Pioneers then. She was pregnant and we had our daughter in 1974. If you can imagine, one particularly clueless sister actually told my wife how sorry she was that my wife was pregnant because of the "Woe to the pregnant woman in that day" scripture!! I was sooooo pissed, and let them know it. This woman was the sort who would mindlessly parrot all sorts of JW tripe.
  
  Yeah, my wife and I actually Pioneered through the birth of our first child. We were the zealous type, you might say!
  
  Oh, by the way, that baby that was going to be such a burden through the imminent Great Tribulation is now nearly 34 and has two kids herself!!
  
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  Noah's ark - Can't believe I once actually thought it was true

  by sam_sane_now in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when i was a jw i didn't even question that the noah's ark story might not be true.

  i didn't realise that it wasn't achievable for a handful of people to gather literally millions of animals - two of each kind - and fit them into a boat where they would all survive for many days.

  i didn't think about the fact that if the highest mountain was covered with water then how could plant life like trees and flowers come to exist again, especially so soon after, with the raven grabbing an olive leaf was it?

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  Liberty - right on!
  
  The Flood story is so flawed, and I know it bothers a lot of still active JWs because they've talked with me about it.
  
  There is a website I was reading last week where, over a period of years, one brother wrote to the WTS laying out, very clearly and respectfully, the insurmountable mountain of evidence proving that the Flood could never have happened.
  
  In one of their answers, they actually used as "proof" of their position comments from a "scientific" book written in the 1700s!! All of the letters are posted there.
  
  Some brothers there must know how pathetic that is!
  
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  Why Are Barb Anderson's Comments Missing from Silentlamb's NBC Transcript?

  by Seeker4 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a few weeks ago i was checking out a few details on line about the nov. 12, 2007 nbc broadcast concerning the wts settlement on the west coast pedophile cases, and the release of the court documents on cd by barbara anderson.

  i think it was lisa meyers who interviewed barbara, and brian williams was hosting.

  well, i figured silentlambs had a transcript of the show, and i went there, only to find that they indeed had the transcript, but all of barbara's portion of the interview was oddly missing, and there was no link to the video.

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  A few weeks ago I was checking out a few details on line about the Nov. 12, 2007 NBC broadcast concerning the WTS settlement on the West Coast pedophile cases, and the release of the court documents on CD by Barbara Anderson.
  
  I think it was Lisa Meyers who interviewed Barbara, and Brian Williams was hosting.
  
  Well, I figured Silentlambs had a transcript of the show, and I went there, only to find that they indeed had the transcript, but all of Barbara's portion of the interview was oddly missing, and there was no link to the video.
  
  I know there was an issue between Barb and Bill Bowen, the founder of Silentlambs, about the timing in releasing info on those court cases, and it seems on the site like Bill is taking a lot of credit for inspiring the NBC broadcast.
  
  He also mentions that it was because of the actions of Silentlambs that "certain individuals," as he puts it, evidently referring to Barb and those that helped her, got access to the 5,000 pages of court documents.
  
  It's not a huge thing, but it does seem a little disingenuous on the part of Silentlambs, and leaving Barbara's comments out of the NBC transcript smacks of the WTS's tactic of partial quoting or quoting out of context. Bill may be at odds with Barbara over a few things, but leaving out those paragraphs while presenting what purports to be a full transcript of the show is journalistically unethical.
  
  Maybe someone could post the active links to Silentlambs and the Nov. 12 NBC broadcast for me - my computer at work won't do that, and others could check to see if I've got this right. Maybe I missed something, but I looked pretty carefully.
  
  Thanks.
  
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  There are soooooo many people getting d'f lately...

  by cognac in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  tons around here and i was just talking to an active person in nh and 5 or 6 people in her cong alone got d'f just in the last 6 months to a year.... is this happening everywhere or just around here???

  anyone have approximate stats around where you live??

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  Where in NH? I'm here in VT.

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  For Those of You Trying to Quit Drinking - Even Temporarily...

  by cognac in

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  2. friends

  figured i'd do a topic for it.

  i'm trying to quit for at least a month - just found i was drinking a bit to much with all the stress.... anyways, its been 10 days since i last had a drink.. how long has it been for you?

  how long are you trying to go without drinking?.

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  Should probably join this group! I'll think about it over a glass of wine tonight!
  
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  Real Estate/Travel Agent

  by reneeisorym in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm sorry to aggrivate you about my life choices all of the time.

  you guys just always give the best advice.

  you understand and don't look down on me for being a little behind in my career due to being a jw until i was 23.. so i'm like the rest of you with a high school diploma only because of that stupid religion.

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  Right now they are developing what is called a fee based realty service, where you pay only for what you want the realtor to do. Check it out.
  
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