I think as the cult unravels there will come to be more and more of this breaking away from mother , especially when elders know of the cracks in the church , remember all of us rebelled against the church. I am still unsure of their motives in Spain , I would hate to fight from within org because it still consumes your time. Detachment from the org is the only healing.
Posts by Chook
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Spain: A group of elder requires clarification to Ministry of Justice regarding sexual molestors
by sp74bb inletter sent today to the ministry of justice... .
spain bethel sent a letter recently last oct 3 interpreting that no elder or sm should request a certificate of sexual offenses as other churches or persons in contact with kids.
again jw.org interprets the law to their behalf.. a group of elders in madrid has sent this letter to ask clarification !!.
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dealing with religion after leaving the witnesses
by joker ini’ve noticed many people posting on this site seem to have completely given up on religion/spirituality.. but some have attended services at another religion, or just follow their own heart regarding what to believe.. my question is how does anyone deal after leaving with all of the witness crap that we believed about babylon the great, the great harlot, spiritual prostitute, etc., etc.
i’m finding out that i seem to have built myself a pretty solid wall regarding religion.. some people can just chuck all beliefs into one basket saying that they are all basically garbage,,, and that is ok, no problem i respect that.. but for myself there is a certain part of my personality that needs a spiritual belief not like the witnesses in any way, but something to meditate on, and contemplate.. being a witness taught me how bad it is to actually think of god in any other way besides what the jw’s believe.
and now when i attend any other service, the dark jw side seems to pop out and seriously makes me believe that everything i see/do/say is wrong.
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Chook
My mothers side is real religious catholic , my brother is a priest, for me it's just one of those things that get imprinted from a young age . It maybe from a lack of education or knowledge but the " what I consider better" option for me is that their is pretty good design in my surroundings, so god creator lord is easier for my mind. There is just to many unanswered questions which I don't think any holy person has the answers for, and the bible is just plain to complex for my mind and the God in there should have written a less complex book. The stories are crazy in the black book, but then again if I was writing it , it could of turned in that direction. If God cares he just has a strange way of showing it.
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Women's Place In Jehovah's Arrangement
by TMS in"i do not permit a woman to teach or to exercize authority over a man, but to be in silence.
" these inspired words are frequently quoted to help define the role of women among jehovah's witnesses.
then eve.
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Chook
A woman place is made very clear in the memo sent out to elders which informed them that no sister could help bind an elders book yet a wordly man could. All JW wives of elder need to ask their husbands " is a Worldy man more trustworthy than a JW sister".
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Brother with a beard on jw.org!
by neat blue dog inok, slight exaggeration: specifically, an official recording of the july 25th, 2016 midweek meeting in german sign language downloaded from stream.jw.org, (log-in required), includes a brother with a beard giving one of the talks:.
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Chook
They don't like beards because it will hide the dribble of bullshit leaving their mouths. The whole beard thing should have rang one of many alarm bells that we overlooked .
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Dumbest elder
by Chook ini went to field service group once and the young elder taking the group was wearing a hat and said the prayer with a hat on.
i informed him later that you are not meant to have head covering, he said he was unaware of such things.
now that the calibre of recruiting on the part of co..
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Chook
I went to field service group once and the young elder taking the group was wearing a hat and said the prayer with a hat on. I informed him later that you are not meant to have head covering, he said he was unaware of such things. Now that the calibre of recruiting on the part of CO.
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Chook
Are ALL emotionally stunted.
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Disfellowhsipped for 7 years...
by HereIgo ini remember around 2009, there was a scandal going on involving 2 families in my cong where the husband in one family was having an affair with the wife of the other family.
this resulted in pregnancy and subsequent disfellowshipping.
what was interesting to me though was a comment made by a co from the platform.
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Chook
If this CO put up 7 years for a adulterous relationship imagine what he would say for apostasy 20 years minimum. Judical sentences in org all boil down to connections. It's always the same no matter what country or group , it's always WHO you know.
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Can Someone Explain To Me, Are The Org In Debt Or Rich?
by pale.emperor inhi guys.. im aware of the orgs blatant hints to donate, donate, donate to the org, the sacking of bethel staff, selling of buildings, reducing mags and books, emphasis on digital rather than physical books etc which is obviously a money saver - but are the wt org in money difficulty?
because elsewhere on here and on youtube there's stories of the watchtower being mega rich, one even called it "a billion dollar organization".
and if there is any money in there, who's benefiting off it?
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Chook
I love how they promote to R&F to pay taxes yet they go to extraordinary lengths to avoid paying any tax. It's ALWAYS about the money!
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CO visit... Circuit is not growing at all, he said during midweek meeting
by StarTrekAngel inso that was a "shocker".
i was not able to attend the meeting.
i had a more important one with my other apostate friends in the area.
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Chook
They always have an each way bet, if org increases its gods blessings,if it decreases it's a narrow road few will find. They always win and of course you will know it's the" truth".
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Hello - New Member
by NotAnointed ini just wanted to intoroduce myself.
i have been lurking for some time and finally decided to register and hopefully contribute to this great forum.. i am in my mid 30s and have never been in the truth.
my wife became a jw several years ago and since she is a (mostly) stay at home mom my two boys are also jws.
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Chook
Welcome my friend, just remember when you refer to not being in the truth we all here have never been in the " truth" either, we were just deceived into thinking it was the truth.