Posts by Crazyguy2

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“You know how I know that they're finished out there? The carts.”

by Athanasius in

jw
friends

the watchtower's many legal problems and the jws' use of carts in their preaching work, reminded me of a scene and dialog from the film patton.. in a scene where patton is viewing a battle site the morning after, he says to an aide about the nazis: “you know how i know that they're finished out there?

in my dreams i saw the carts.

they kept buzzing around in my head and i couldn't figure out why.

Crazyguy2

The jws are so used to people giving them no mind that standing in front of a cart for hours will not persuade many to realize their wasting their time away. But yes it is true the religion is just a dead man walking and in away they know it since they use old publications on those carts.

People are leaving in mass and the growth ended when they finally had to change the “this generation will not pass away” BS.

Example I have friend that his wife got dfd for adultery, he stopped after the friends weren’t so friendly when he was missing a lot of meetings do to issues with his wife and of course I helped to wake him up. All his kids in their 30-40s of age had already stopped going years before all but two younger ones.

Well after he woke up both of them stopped and one of them is married and the spouse stopped too. My friends siblings he has three and two have stopped not because they are awake but just got sick of going and being told to live a pathetic life.

So to recap my friend raised 6 kids in the cult and their all out. He’s out his exwife is dfd and isn’t going back and two out of three of his siblings are inactive. Only one sibling and his mother are pimi his dad recently died. That’s a lot of people that were once counted as being active publishers some baptized that no longer go, and this is going on all over the world.

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Would the Jehovah's Witnesses benefit from the Sethite View?

by I_love_Jeff in

i contacted yahoo answers rep and disputed this issue.

ridiculous!!!.

jehovah's witnesses: is the sethite view something you would benefit from?.

Crazyguy2

My research tells me that the word Elohim means gods. Not sons of gods not angels but gods. But hey know one wants to admit that there were several gods that made man and several gods that tried to kill man in the flood story etc etc etc.

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Need help in finding some information regarding the Adam and Eve tale.

by Tameria2001 in

i am finally at the point in my life i no longer believe in the tales of the bible.

my husband feels for the most part that it too is stuff made up.

there are just a few things that he wants to get cleared up, and one of those being the story of adam and eve.

Crazyguy2

Yeah a talking snake good one! The idea of a paradise comes from the Egyptians and the Osiris cult. If you were a good person and could pass all the trials and tribulations and your heart was pure you would be resurrected back into your mummified body and move on to the “Field of Reeds” paradise! The Greeks copied the idea with their Elysian Fields. Rutherford apparently studied some Ancient Greek.

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Elders accused of playing rape tape to victim, 15; case goes to Utah Sup. Court

by Corney in

a woman is suing a local congregation ("kingdom hall of jehovah’s witnesses, roy, utah, an unincorporated association"), individual elders and watchtower ny after, she claims, a judicial committee forced her to listen an audio recording of her own rape.

the trial court summarized the facts as alleged by the plaintiff as follows:.

at the time of the judicial committee, plaintiff was fifteen years old.

Crazyguy2

It’s just crazy that these courts will rule in some cases that just about anything that is done by a religion is ok because of the first amendment. This is 2019 it’s time we get out of the dark ages!

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Need help in finding some information regarding the Adam and Eve tale.

by Tameria2001 in

i am finally at the point in my life i no longer believe in the tales of the bible.

my husband feels for the most part that it too is stuff made up.

there are just a few things that he wants to get cleared up, and one of those being the story of adam and eve.

Crazyguy2

It’s a combination of Old Sumerian stories. Someone took elements of several different stories and put them together to make the Adam and Eve story. In the original stories a god named Enki created man with the help of a female god and the sacrifice of another god for his blood. The idea of taking a rib to create Eve is from another story about Enki again and another female goddess healing him (can’t remember the details) but do to a mistranslation the mentioning of a Rib is in that story.

Enki had a garden and a man who tended to this garden named Adamu. It’s was also in another story where Adamu was called to the sky gods and then offered immortality if he would eat of the food provided but Enki told him it was a trick so Adamu didn’t eat and therefore didn’t gain immortality. Enki is also the original god that warned man about a coming flood and to save yourself a and to build a boat, save living things.

Yes the alien connection is very tiresome.

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Yesterday's wt: No wonder jws don't get any results from their ministry

by nowwhat? in

all about teaching the bible and about god.

what about preaching the gospel of jesus?

there's only about a dozen scriptures that say christians are to bear witness about the christ that they ignore.

Crazyguy2

The jws wanted to be different and only preach the father, they ignore the son for the most part don’t want to accidentally get any ideas of a trinity is why I’ve been told. But the real reason could be much more brazen.

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Jehovah's Witnesses Came to My Neighborhood

by Juan Viejo2 in

for nearly two years i have not seen any jehovah's witnesses going door to door in my neighborhood.

that was not the case when my wife and i first moved here (north central oregon).

in fact, our neighborhood was visited at least once every 4 to 5 months - even in the coldest winter months.

Crazyguy2

I just found out a kH near the one I attended when growing up has been sold. This truly is a dying cult. Generation after generation of young ones leaving by as much as 70% doesn’t work out so well if you want to grow. It was a big hit in the head finding out about this hall being sold. I knew about ones in other areas mostly rural being sold but this one was right in a major Seattle neighborhood.

Its really good news that this cult is going down. Yes not over night but ever little closer , sale or person quitting is a domino. I was just thinking about my kids which are in their teens trying to get married in a few years. With so many people gone or quitting they may really find it hard to find a mate and if they marry a worldly person then there’s a chance they will fall away so more gone.

I know of one young sister in my hall that has gone this route and is now out. Each one of these different events or situations become another dominos and there all being turned over to crush the cult. There’s no way there’s 8.5 million jws in this world , most likely about half that and it’s getting smaller and smaller by the minute.

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ANOTHER DEAD in ITALY because of REFUSING BLOOD

by Eliseo in

http://www.paesenews.it/?p=172570.

Crazyguy2

Especially when they can get Hemopure (cows blood ) and the GB are ok with it!

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The serpent in the Garden can’t be secretly Satan

by Doug Mason in

we know that the serpent in the garden can’t be secretly satan, because the first time satan is mentioned by name is in a story chronologically after this one, and in that, he is said to be walking.

remember that the serpent was cursed to crawl on his belly all the rest of his days, but in the book of job, satan is still walking around and chatting with god as if they’d never had a falling out.

this is when god had to ask satan where he’s been, because his infallible omniscience obviously didn’t know.. so if he had to ask that of satan, who is later described as the lord of lies, then why would god believe him?

Crazyguy2

In the original stories from Mesopotamia Enki was the god of wisdom and cunning he was also the god of the earth and water. He was also described as being a serpent. Some scholars and archeologists believe he was the serpent in the garden of eden story. Other believe he may have been the god testing Adam and another lesser god also described as a serpent is who talked to Eve.

In stories about Enki he did have a garden and he also had a man named Adamu which was the care taker of the garden.

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Did Russell come up with the no hell fire and no Trinity doctrine or did steal that belief from another religion as well?

by nowwhat? in

just wondering hate to give the devil his due.

Crazyguy2

Personally I think he pretty much stole everything. He wanted to be different and so I think he went for different fringe Christian ideas and then took the ones he liked and rolled with it.