i just read the scripture then went and checked in thier older bible and it read the same so i check the greek interlinear and yes they changed john 3:16 .
the verse reads "all who believe in him should not perish but have everlasting life" the cult version says "exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life".. so not only do they say one must exercise faith meaning having to work for it but also they changed should not perish but having everlasting life to might not be destroyed again making a caveat where one does not exist.
just to add to the point verse 18 in both bibles says the one having faith is not judged, totally blowing up thier version of 16 but of course they change 18 to say exercising faith too but it makes little difference, since it says not judged.
Heard the verse john 3:16 again today at meeting and again it really stands out when they state in their bible the phrase “might not parish “ when most Bible read “should not parish”
“should not “ sounds to me like a positive statement that makes me think most likely will not where the phrase “ might not” sound more like the odds are not good but just maybe. Maybe I’m just mincing words but these kind of changes really do in my opinion change the meaning of scriptures and people perceptions.
the part last week about entertainment actually was not too over the top especially considering it was chaired by tony.
but i noticed he mentioned the present songs used as being sacred music.
i call them sales ditties.
The songs are so bad now. Just horrible!
this is the first time i have posted on here in many years..... i seldom visit now although this forum was instrumental to me in gaining my sanity in the early 2000's and recovering from the watchtower religion.. by chance tonight i was on youtube and caught a jw.org video which out of curiosity prompted me to look at the official website and amongst other things i looked up the music section.. why that i hear you ask?
music is my passion and nothing reminds me more or evokes more memories than the kingdom songs i grew up listening to.. i am 49 years old and my mother was baptised in 1974. i grew up in the era of pink songbooks and green bibles.
of the theology of fred franz and types and anti-types.
The songs now seem as though they were created to drive people out of the cult. I don’t know their just bad!
https://www.ancient-origins.net/artifacts-other-artifacts/ossuary-james-0012181.
Jesus really existed just like Thor , Hercules and Romulus.
some people say that’s the least we should do while others say no way!
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what do you think about dispensing reparations?
No.
back in the day, russell and rutherford would hold debates with other religious leaders.
why has jehovah's witnesses stopped doing that?
i think it would be very interesting to see how they would hold up on a debate now.
Because some apostate would show up and clean their clocks!
i called a jehovah's witness friend of mine a couple weeks ago, yes i still consider him a friend though he would not say the same of me.
i've known him for almost 40 years.
our families went on many vacations together including my only trip back to bethel in 1996. this trip was made with 40 other "brothers and sisters.
Send him the video of Morris buying $1100 worth of booze and ask him who are they to judge you?!
personally i think it is 1914 and the following " this generation " doctrine.. this particular doctrine went right against jesus's own words of " no one knows of the time not even he " .
he also admonished his true followers to not set a time upon god's own sacred time .. the leaders of the wts even back to the late 1800's set a time calculated on their own theology 1874 being the first time set and proclaimed by c t russell, also proclaiming 1914 would likely be the year of the final day of judgment armageddon.
all throughout the 20th century the wts held to this doctrine but was eventually revised of course when it was realized this generation had passed away who saw the events of 1914. .
The 75 push followed by the generation will not pass away got them growth up into the 90s but now their in decline.
i understand why the witnesses won't actually "reason" from the scriptures; because they will have to come to grips with the fact that others have their own reasons, scripture-based, for believing differently than the jw's.. the "reasoning" book was supposed to arm the r&f with solid scriptural backing that could withstand most in-depth conversations.
so, why is it gathering dust now?
was there some doctrinal issue specifically?.
The reasoning book stated the world was going to end by the end of the twentieth century or at least the end of the system of things. So there’s that not really a big deal unless your against false prophecies!
as some of you know by now, i spent sunday, 7 august, renewing ties with a dear friend.
we're both disfellowshipped, the difference between us being he is seeking reinstatement and i am not.
we got into some very spirited discussions on different bible topics and one of them was the value of the new world translation itself.
It’s important to note that Franz did not have two years of studies in Greek like the original poster stated. That was a WT lie or a legend that someone started.
