Posts by Sentinel

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Simon, I need to know ..........

by Sentinel in

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simon,.

perhaps i have been the one to misunderstand the prime objective of your forum.

in the beginning i went to the orginal posts from you to get an idea of what you had in mind, and it did seem like i was in a good place and that i understood the rules and such.

Sentinel

Perhaps I need to find another place to go then.

Thank you for the nudge. I don't have to be pushed.

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Simon, I need to know ..........

by Sentinel in

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simon,.

perhaps i have been the one to misunderstand the prime objective of your forum.

in the beginning i went to the orginal posts from you to get an idea of what you had in mind, and it did seem like i was in a good place and that i understood the rules and such.

I was feeling a bit down today and when I saw that thread end up adding to the fire, it just made me even sadder. There is so much potential for good here. I just hope that it does die down soon. I will just have to go back and read old threads for awhile.

Even if there is usually joy in my heart, there are some things that bring tears to my eyes. I suppose I let Bad Seed get under my skin. (This is how arguments get started) I'm usually stronger than that, but oh well........Guess I will have to get to know these posters a bit more, and just "let it go" and not go there, when it bothers me.

Karen

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Simon, I need to know ..........

by Sentinel in

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simon,.

perhaps i have been the one to misunderstand the prime objective of your forum.

in the beginning i went to the orginal posts from you to get an idea of what you had in mind, and it did seem like i was in a good place and that i understood the rules and such.

Sentinel

Simon,

Perhaps I have been the one to misunderstand the prime objective of your Forum. In the beginning I went to the orginal posts from you to get an idea of what you had in mind, and it did seem like I was in a good place and that I understood the rules and such.

I just didn't expect so much of what has been happening and escalating during the past several weeks. This is not your fault. I have read your response posts and still it goes on and on. Is this something new? Has this happened before? Will it calm down?

I try to look for good and interesting threads, and respond out of my heart. Apparently, sincerity is not tolerated all that well by the masses here.

Maybe I am just as nieve as I ever was...........I'm certainly every bit as human as all lthe rest of you out there.

Karen

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What the hell has happened here?

by The_Bad_Seed in

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just poking through the archives of the last few days.... what the hell has happened here!?!.

no more moe, gravedancer, or bakedcanuck?!.

naeblis posts removed, others edited by moderators?!.

Sentinel

Bad Seed,

In answer to you're "get real" remark to me. Your thread deserved my reply. I went to that thread, not knowing what it was about, and then finding out, YET AGAIN, THAT THIS SUBJECT WILL NOT GO AWAY.

Without abusing or bashing or cursing or attacking--That's exactly what my post was doing. GETTING REAL!

GOT IT!

Karen

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How do you get your family back?

by Gerard in

i was wondering if any one you know has gotten their family back by showing them proofs of watchtower's un membership or regi u.s. inc (owned 50% by watchtower) fabricating engines for war machines?

my dear friend is about to do it and i am quite skeptical they will believe this and snap out of this shunning.. respectfuly,.

gerry

Sentinel

I can only speak from my own experience with my mom. She totally shunned me for twelve years of my life and hers, because of stubborness mostly. She exceeded the requirements, as I was not df'd, but had simply just walked away and sent letters. No announcement was made. Maybe to prove a point, who knows. I have even thought that perhaps because I "left", it was in affect making the statement that her decision to bring the JW's into our lives was wrong and damaging. She could not face that and so she had to punnish me. At any rate, suddenly, in 1992, I received a call from my father saying that he AND MY MOM were taking a trip up north and wanted to visit me. Wow! Totally out of the blue she was back in my life again. I was grateful for that. We have maintained communication ever since. She has her opinions of me, and thinks I'm doomed to die, and I have my opinions of her, a robot. We agree to disagree, and just don't confront each other.

These days, I am satisfied just to be able to speak to her on the phone about the weather, about her menus for means, about her doctor visits, etc. Just simple, meaningless crap. She doesn't want to hear about my epiphany, nor about any type of spiritual enlightenment. She is extremely closeminded and totally borg. She won't allow me to introduce any of the subjects you mentioned. She is 78 years old, and her life is ebbing away.......

My sister has confronted her regarding the UN deal and the SilentLambs, but to no avail. Mom says her elders tell her all she needs to know and she believes them totally.

Usually, if a JW doubts, they then feel so much guilt that they have to "try harder". They suppress their instinctive curiosities and feel comfortable putting all their trust in "man". The blind leading the blind comes to mind here.

I really don't believe that a person can set out to save someone else. The best we can do is to be happy and show love. Those being deceived have to come to the point of making inquiries and questioning, so that valid points can be made; otherwise, the more you push and attack, the more they pull into the safety of the organization. They live in denial.

My heart goes out to all of my friends here who have family and friends still in. We cannot be responsible for the outcome. It is their choice.

Love and Light,

Karen

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What the hell has happened here?

by The_Bad_Seed in

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just poking through the archives of the last few days.... what the hell has happened here!?!.

no more moe, gravedancer, or bakedcanuck?!.

naeblis posts removed, others edited by moderators?!.

Sentinel

If everyone is able to read the posts by Simon and others, then you will understand what has happened.

Those of us who wish the Forum to continue on as a good place to come to would just appreciate this subject being allowed to die down. It has gone on long enough IMHO.

Thank you,

Karen

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A piece of me reaching out...

by Mimilly in

i have been laying on my bed for awhile now, trying very hard to just stay still.

today, i left this board for a break.

while typing it out, there was a steak knife at my side (from cleaning guck out of the mouse), but it beckoned me.

Sentinel

Mimilly,

I admit, I do not know anyone personally who has experienced what you have gone through in the past, and the great feelings you have now, to go back to that type of "self punnishment".

But, my heart goes out to you in your dilema. You need to have someone nearby that you can call at times like this. Many people that suffer like you do just need encouragement at the right time.

I'm glad you got on here, but you need more than just printed words. Usually most areas have Crisis Centers, or Hot Lines. They are there to help anyone who needs someone to talk to.

This will pass and you will be strong again. When you feel this way, and you find yourself alone, try holding your hands together, and closing your eyes and meditating on any good and positive thing in your life, no matter how insignificant. Call on your higher powers to assist you. I don't mean "god" exactly, but just our universal "parents"--our Father/Mother. When you do this, your inner soul will give you the strength you need to pass through the most horrible times.

Karen

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Most JW women are adulterers

by Faraon in

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1 corinthians 11:3

but i would have you know, that the head of every man is christ; and the head

of the woman is the man

Sentinel

...and then there was Lot's wife, of the Sodom and Gamorah story.

All she did was "

Oops!

Karen

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pomegranate's story (Never before published)

by pomegranate in

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maybe this will be helpful to others.

how pomegranate became free from jw slavery.

it was just before i was 10 that my mom and dad began studying with jw's.

Sentinel

Hi Pomegranate,

I enjoyed your "story". Thank you for opening up your heart and sharing your life story. This is the way we all get to know each other here on the forum.

See you around here.

Karen

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Double Dog Dare: My Bio

by onacruse in

(xenawarrior and minimus, take note that i am a man of my word!

chronology: i am 50. was born and raised a jw, reg pub @ 6, baptized @ 10, reg pio (b4 hs graduation) and giving public talks @ 17, went to bethel @ 18, left bethel @ 20, married (1st time) @ 21, df'd @ 29, divorced @ 30, reinstated @ 30, remarried @ 32, df'd again @ 48, divorced again @ 49. one heck of a roller-coaster, eh?.

disfellowshipping: both my df'ings were for apostasy.

Sentinel

Hi Onacruse,

You know, it's one thing to read someone else's post, where they've poured their heart and soul out into words, but to post your very own story is something else indeed. Congratulations! It is kind of a turning point to be willing to open up to personal experiences. You have plenty of friends here. We all learn from our mistakes and we keep on going. We are survivors! (I'm 56 and still learning)

Human beings are all pretty much the same. We are vulnerable when we open up our heart and soul. In doing so, we show that we are willing to love and be loved. When we fall down, we get right back up again. Former JW's have had it so much worse than the general run of people in the world.

I'm certain you have many interesting tales to tell and I look forward to more of your posts.

Karen