Welcome Blackrose,
If you've been "looking" around for about a month, then you have a pretty good overall idea of what goes on here in the forum.
I look forward to your post about your experiences.
Love and Light,
Karen
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Newbie
by blackrose inhello, i am new to this board in a way.
i have been reading messages for about a month now and just got the nerve up to register an account so i can give my "two cents" once in a while.
i was raised a jw, but just recently expressed openly that i do not have plans on associating with them any longer.. anyways, not going to type my story out right now, as i do not know if any one wants to hear it.
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Cruel and Unusual Punishment
by Swan ini just woke up from a nap.
in the dream i had, i was with my mother.
i was talking with her.
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Hi Tammy,
The song "You Are My Sunshine", is my favorite as well. My mother taught it to me when I was very small, and then I taught it to my son, who sang it to me at two years old!
My son and I were reunited several years back and he got me a mother's day gift, a musical plaque, and yes, you guessed it, that is the melody it played. I cried tons of happy tears that day.
Don't give up on the ones you love, especially your dear mother. She is in a lot of pain as well, but she believes she must endure and that she is being tested for her faith. My mother was estranged from me for twelve years. She was extremely stubborn, and I would call her and cry, and she wouldn't do or say anything. She would finally just say, "I can't talk to you" and hang up.
This is what the borg does to families. It ripped us apart when we had been very close as mother and daughter. It is so unnatural and unloving. My mother told me later, that she was so very unhappy and depressed during our time apart. At one point, she told me that she had a nervous breakdown. I hate the society for doing this to her and to me. I hate them for doing it to you.
One of my counselors advised me that I had to let go of her, which didn't mean to give up, but simply to get on with my life and accept things as they were. I did this and it broke my heart. But, as time went by, she softened and finally showed up to visit. That was in 1992, and we have been connected ever since. She won't speak about "the truth", or have any deep or meaningful conversations, but it's wonderful just to have her say anything to me. It's not all one-sided now.
Be brave and be strong. Be good to yourself. Keep loving friends close. I will be thinking of you. Thank you for printing out all the words to the song.
Karen
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I'm back ... now READ THIS
by Simon inwe've just got back from out holidays after travelling with 2 young kids for 24+ hours and logged on to see the same old people complaining about the same old things with the same worn out arguments.. the topics seem to be along the lines of:posters should be allowed to say anything they want.we want absolute free speech and seem to be under the mistaken illusion that the usa has it.there is mass moderation happening on this forum and censorship is rife.
... and so on.. all of these claims are utter crap as far as i am concerned.. now, i am not going to put up with people trying to stir things up and interfere with the majority of posters who want to use this forum properly and see me and moderation as the main topic of conversation.. keep harping on and you will be deleted.
harsh?
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As adults, we know there must be rules in place to establish order and discipline in any situation. This is not an unreasonable expectation. There are rules everywhere we go. There are stop signs and warning signs. There are spoken and unspoken rules. We have rules for our children. Teachers have rules for their students.
Perhaps if abusing and cursing is such a part of one's nature, and one just can't help being rude and crude, or mean and nasty, and it is really an important issue that cannot be denied, maybe they should find another place on the net where they will be absolutely free to do and say whatever. This forum is not the place. Simon says.
When you sign up on this forum you first learn the rules. If the rules need to be changed or inforced, you accept those changes. If you don't like the rules, or can't abide by the rules, that is your choice. But it is Simon's call to be able to maintain his site the way he wishes. He is not taking away anyone's rights.
Thank you Simon.
Karen
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west nile at my house
by not interested injsut a note to any horse owners:.
yesterday my neighbor's horse came down with west nile, he had just given the vaccine a week ago, at the same time as i vaccinated my horses, the local vets were saying that it wouldnt be a problem here untill next year and now there are 75 horses that have come down with it,.
so if you have horses and havent vaccinated them for west nile please do it, it is so sad to see the effects take over a strong, healthy, young, horse.. what has me worried is that with my l\uck im going to be the first person localy to get it.
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NI,
I am very sorry to hear about your misfortune with the West Nile Virus. The state of Louisiana has over 150 cases now, so they are considering it an epidemic. They say it is moving West. We had a few cases in our area here in Virginia and there were some in Maryland as well.
Take care and I hope that you don't lose any of your horses. And, also, hope it doesn't get to any humans including yourself.
Take Care,
Karen
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Share your funniest or cutest baby pics!!
by Solace inseven recently posted some darling pics of himself as a baby!
sooo cute!
i thought it would be so fun to see everyones baby pictures!
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..and here is one of my dear little boy with his older counsin and my dad. He took them to the zoo and they both seem a bit apprehensive of that snake! He was probably about three in this one. (1972)
Thanks for letting me share.
Karen
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Share your funniest or cutest baby pics!!
by Solace inseven recently posted some darling pics of himself as a baby!
sooo cute!
i thought it would be so fun to see everyones baby pictures!
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Heaven,
This is a fun thread. I don't have but a couple of my own baby pictures, and they aren't copied to disc yet as they are in bad shape.
Here is a special black and white photo that I have always kept. It is one of the very few taken of me with my daddy approximately 55 years ago.
My mom made all my clothes and this was a red dress with white trim. I wasn't two years old yet, and the sun was in my eyes.
Karen
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Is there anything that could make you go back?
by sleepy inis there anything that could make you go back?.
what do you think, is there any change of belief or change of circumstance that could make you return to the jw fold?.
i cant see anything that could make me go back,but i was thinking mabye some of you religious types would go back if they changed some doctrinal things,or if they stopped banning blood.. how about if a family member was dying and hoped to see you in paradise would you go back for a while just to make them feel happy?
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...on second thought, maybe if I could make myself invisible and return to the old congregation, just to look into the faces of my friends--to see them once more. Then again, that would probably make me very unhappy, so I guess I really wouldn't want to do that. Maybe if I could just slip in the back door and not look at anyone. Just be invisible, but listen out of curiousity. I doubt if anything at all has really changed in 43 years. Armegeddon is still "any day now", and those warnings would be alive to keep yourself separate and apart from the world and everything in it. Yikes!!! Do I need any reminders of those days? No Way.
Last May ('01), I traveled by myself to Florida to visit with my mom after dad died earlier in the year. I knew that she would try to get me to go with her to her "meetings", and I was all prepared to say "no". Just as I thought, she told me that she had this really big favor to ask and that she just knew I wouldn't say no. She said she wanted me to go to the meetings with her because she wanted all her "friends" to meet her eldest daughter. I really did hate to hurt her feelings. I kept telling myself that I didn't believe them any more and that they couldn't hurt me any more, but finally decided to tell her that I would be a hypocrite to go with her. That I did not believe their teachings and so I would have to decline. I told her to feel free to attend as she usually does.
When the evening of the book study came and went and she didn't go, I didn't say anything. Then I told her that she should go on to her meetings because I was just fine staying behind and watching TV or reading. She decided not to go to the Thursday meetings either. She did not attempt to do any "witnessing" to me, and said that I was "past being able to see any of the beautiful truth", and that I would be destroyed. I tried not to let that get to me while in her prescence, but later on, before going to sleep, I cried.......for her......
Karen
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Why did you join JW's?
by happysunshine inwhy did you join jw's?
i was raised a witness, so i had no choice till i could live on my own.
but why would you actually choose such a thing!
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Why did I join? Well, I really didn't have a choice. I was thirteen when my mom began her studies. My dad never took any part in raising his kids, other than beating us. He never took any interest in our lives. When I was young, I felt very insecure and unloved, so I clung to the only person who was there for me, and that was my mom.
When she began studying and gathered us together and said that she had found the "real truth", and that Armegeddon was coming any day, and we would be protected if we were part of this great crowd of Jehovah's Witnesses., I was baptised the following year because I didn't want to die at the world's end. Simple as that.
What did I know? As a good and obedient daughter, I just followed the lead of my mother. She would have never ever gotten involved with them, had my dad been there as a good husband and father. The JDubs gave her the one on one care and concern that she longed for. They made her a part of something. They provided her with a congregation of friends, people who cared enough to provide her with transportation and help her with her four children. She now had a purpose in life. Sacrificing and suffering for Jah became her quest. When she made this choice, dad drifted even further from us. At one point, he did try to force the issue with her, but by then it was too late. She would chose Jah over him, and he lost. So he through in the towel and let her have full reign over us. She enjoyed having this power and control over her children.
How I wish that my childhood had been different. But, we can't change the past. We can only try to fix our life when we grow up and become an adult. That is major hard work!
Thank goodness we are out and free from that bondage. My mother has been a borg since 1959 and never waivered.
Love and Light,
Karen
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why do people think jesus died on a cross?
by watermelon ini have always wonderd why so many people think jesus died on a cross.
ive been brought up to beleive that he died on a stake.
where did it come from about the cross?
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Greg,
You hit the "nail on the head".
Your information about the person having to carry their own crossbeam is accurate, and makes good common sense.
It is amazing to me how people can be easily led along to believe this or that by religious dogma. There is a lot of historical information available other than the bible.
Thanks,
Karen
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Child Fear
by garybuss infrom paradise lost to paradise regained
children's book by: (watchtower bible and tract society, 1958).
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Child Fear = Child Abuse
I well remember these pictures and passages. In early youth, this was the reason I was baptised---so I would survive.
Again, where is the love?
Thanks Gary. As always, you bring it right on home.
Karen