Mulan,
Thanks for posting a reply.
I've thought about emailing you a few times.
Would that be alright with you?
We are the same age, and seem to think alike on lots of topics. I always appreciate your comments on the forum.
Karen
i've been reading posts for a while now, and sometimes it seems that some posters really know each other quite well.
i was thinking perhaps that they knew each other prior to coming on the forum.. how many here went to the same congregation and were friends or family?.
or how many here did not attend the same congregation at the same time, only to connect again on this forum?.
Mulan,
Thanks for posting a reply.
I've thought about emailing you a few times.
Would that be alright with you?
We are the same age, and seem to think alike on lots of topics. I always appreciate your comments on the forum.
Karen
finally got up the nerve to send my da letters out yesterday.i sent them in lovely scarlet envelopes(in homage to nathaniel hawthorne's "the scarlet letter")with american flag stamps hehe.i wrote the letters on my hound dog stationary.thought it was fitting, having heard the old "dog returning to its vomit" speech a few gazillion times(hey, my lab and dal eat lots of vomit and they love horse manure-vet says they're the healthiest doggies around:)).. then i went out and bought a little christmas tree and some teeny tiny ornaments.yeah, i know, i'm rushing it a bit.but i really really missed celebrating christmas, and i didn't even admit that to myself until just recently.my kids were absolutely thrilled!
!this year will be their first everything.i'm going to buy them all "my first christmas" ornaments.. but first we have halloween and a few birthdays to do.my sons already got their first invitations to a birthday party.
my kids want me to go trick-or-treating with them.maybe i'll dress up as cruella deville and take my dalmatian puppy,sidhe, with me.. my,my, i'm running on and on like a kid at christmas...and halloween...and ..... it's good to be free.i don't care what the org boogeymen try now.i've said my piece to them,now i'm done with them.i don't have to sneak around and worry about whose seeing me do this or that.i'm the one who has chosen to leave-and you bet your boots i will hold certain ones to their own rules about not speaking to me lol.in this case, what comes around, goes around.i'm just glad to be off the org carousel.i'm a little dizzy yet, but still standing.. hehe-i'm getting punchy.i'm going to go to bed and sleep in on a sunday morning!!!
WELCOME TO CICATRIX AND SSTAR
I did the same as you did Cic, by just sending a letter. I admit, I did wait a bit, but because my mother went bonkers when the @#$ hit the fan, I wanted my "friends" to know why I was putting the JW Cult behind me. It made me feel good for a change.
Sstar, it sounds like "maybe" you are thinking about "going back"? Did I understand you right? Please stay here awhile and read the experiences. You may decide firmly not to make that choice.
When I "got out", I felt strange trying to celebrate Christmas and Birthdays. I forced myself, but still felt uncomfortable. Christmas must be nice for families that are really close and can be together. It's not that way for us, so I can take it or leave it. Some years I do the tree and some years I just don't. It doesn't bother me, it's gotten so commercial. At least I have the freedom to decide.
Love and Light,
Sentinel/Karen
i've been reading posts for a while now, and sometimes it seems that some posters really know each other quite well.
i was thinking perhaps that they knew each other prior to coming on the forum.. how many here went to the same congregation and were friends or family?.
or how many here did not attend the same congregation at the same time, only to connect again on this forum?.
Thanks Donna, I have seen articles from the Freeminds site, but haven't really gotten into it much further. I will certainly have to check that out.
Kingpawn, how awful to be "somewhere" where people are "talking" about you. Gosh, sometimes I've wanted to be a fly on the wall in certain circumstances, but would probably just get my wittle feelins hurt.
Sentinel/Karen
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my sadness today is the result of love and all of the ups and downs that go with it.. however, a wonderful co-worker of mine sent me something that cheered me up.. http://www.funklix.com/wannashout/you_make_me_wanna_shout.swf
Well, we all need some loving kindness from our friends. If you are familiar with my posts, I wear my heart on my typing fingers, so to speak.
I know exactly what it's like to feel like you have to go through something all alone. I can tell you love your mate. Bless you. It can't be easy. They feel sorry for "us" because we aren't "in", and we feel sorry for them because they are "in". It takes a great deal of commitment to work through those issues.
My husband is not a JW, nor has he ever been. He didn't even know what they were until he met me. He could not believe the damage that they do to people.
Like I said, I am a good listener. I don't judge. I keep things private. So, if you just want someone to talk to, I'd like to be a friend. There is nothing wrong with that.
Karen
i returned last sunday from las vegas, where i had been attending a convention for one of my suppliers.
it was a network marketing convention, so the people there were from all over the world.
one day i was walking back (about a mile) from the convention area at the hotel, to the elevators, when i heard a group say "well, we are all witnesses.
Hello Mulan,
I've never been to Vegas. In fact, the farthest West I've gone is West Virginia!
I love to just listen to people. Like if I'm just somewhere waiting, which seems to be a big part of life anyway. I like to hear what people are thinking and talking about.
Wow, I bet that word "witness" really did peek your curiousty. lol Speaking of the Jackson family. I have oftened wondered what life at home was really like for them. The two younger daughters really seem messed up, as I'm thinking of Latoya and Janet. Such a shame. And look at Michael. Now that is really sad. One really does have to wonder how much the JW experience screwed them up.
Gosh, you are fortunate to be able to travel to such interesting places.
Sentinel/Karen
screwed
my jw sister and i are on good terms, and i talk to her on a regular basis.
on the other hand, i have a jw cousin who i hope never to talk to again.
i have only seen her once in 30 years and that was at my sister's daugher's wedding.
Awww, Benext, ((((HUGS))))
That is so sad that your mom would behave that way. But, you aren't alone. My mom was doing that a lot, until I really put my foot down recently. It was bad enough that she totally disowned me for twelve years! I think my recent statements shocked her. I mean, I try to respect her, and expect the same in return. She is 78 and a very faithful JDub since 1959. A very sweet lady and I don't want to hurt her. But, if she really loves me, then she wouldn't want to hurt me either. So, we agree to disagree and so far it has worked since she reestablished a relationship with me in 1992. (I suppose there was some new light or whatever.)
I don't like confrontations, so I normally try to just avoided coming in contact with ones that were DF'd when I was younger. I thought it was terrible when they came to the KH, sat in the back, and were treated as if they weren't even there. When it hit home, within my very own family, I would sneak around to visit my two sister's who were DF'd. I don't believe my mom ever found out. I thought the shunning and rejection was so cold and unloving and I just had a difficult time, trying to show them love, but being a good little JDub.
When I was DF'd, they did the same with me. It was a shame we had to meet in secret. My childhood relationships with sibblings was "in", "out", "in", "out", with this one or that one, myself included. That made for a very dysfunctional family to say the least.
We're out and free and happy to be very close to each other these days!
Love and Light,
Sentinel/Karen
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my sadness today is the result of love and all of the ups and downs that go with it.. however, a wonderful co-worker of mine sent me something that cheered me up.. http://www.funklix.com/wannashout/you_make_me_wanna_shout.swf
Awwwwwww Mr. 8iggs,
(((((((((HUGS)))))))))
Yeal, love sucks sometimes. Love feels good, but can hurt at the same time. So much stuff going on with two separate people trying to make it work and still remain sane.
But we are compelled to ride it's waves in and out and up and down, till it makes us dizzy. lol
Hope you feel better soon. If you need a friend to just "talk it out with", you can feel free to email me. I'm a good listener.
Karen
i will be taking a short hiatus, away from jwdc, until late september, as i am busy making arrangements for my move across the country on the 15th, while juggling an almost impossible 70 hour workweek (lately).
in the meantime, have fun, yell at eachother, makeup, kiss and hug, or stab eachother in the eyeballs or the crotch.
bye for now mates!
Ahhh, Geeeze Bad Seed,
I was really gettin warmed up to ya! I will actually miss you on here.
Well, don't forget us, okay. We'll still be here waiting for you when you get all set up.
Working 70 hours is the pits, of course unless you are getting paid overtime. lol
Hope the move goes smoothly enough for you, as any long distance move like this should provide you with lots of different experiences along the way. My brother is planning right now to take his family out of St Pete, Fl, and move permanently to Northern CA. He can't wait.
Bye for now,
Karen
hello friends .
i've just been thinking about something as i drove past the kingdom hall near where i work.
it has absolutely no windows.
Just checked my thread and found even more replies. Thanks to nowfree, imanaliento, dsgal, glitter and blondie for your input....................and
Crazy, what nice digs you dug up there my friend. I think they are most appropriate, as the "landlord" looks like he could handle those CO's by sticking them up in the tower. lol !! I don't think those JDubs would go for the "politics" of special privileges, though. (but, then again, you never know)
Sentinel
i've been reading posts for a while now, and sometimes it seems that some posters really know each other quite well.
i was thinking perhaps that they knew each other prior to coming on the forum.. how many here went to the same congregation and were friends or family?.
or how many here did not attend the same congregation at the same time, only to connect again on this forum?.
Thanks Nikita,
I do remember your post, and maybe that's what got me to thinking more about it. It seems like a good question to me, so I hope our friends will respond.
Karen