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  For believers, prayers requested

  by StAnn in

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  2. medical

  my brother's stepson, wesley reier, accidentally overdosed on drugs.

  he is considered brain dead.

  his biological parents have decided to put him in a nursing home, where he will remain for the rest of his natural life.

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  NeverKnew

  Aw, StAnn, I'm sorry to hear that.

  I believe He's already taking care of Wesley.

  Does he have any children or siblings?

  I'm praying for those around him - including you.
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  Should I send this letter to my non-JW cousin who refuses to listen to ANY criticism of our JW relatives?

  by nicolaou in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  some background here; non-jw family members who are overly respectful and protective of the jw's.. i thought i might try a completely different tactic.

  what are your views on my letter below?

  i thought i'd let it sit with her for a couple of weeks or more before following it up .

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  NeverKnew

  "Time out!" says the life-long non-jw. I totally respect your intentions but given their perceptions and belief systems with respect to railing against other denominations coupled with their ignorance of the formation and doctrines of the organization, they are unable to hear you from this direction. If someone quoted these scriptures, I'd really side with the JWs!

  Do you want to know what elements woke me up? :)
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  Crazy! I'm related to a TERRORIST!!

  by ThisFellowCheap in

  1. social
  2. current

  so, mum called this this afternoon and asked if i had heard of the london terror attacks, i replied that i know of it.. then she asked, don't you recognise him?".

  so i answered, "no".. mum: don't you recognise tobi?.

  mum: tobi, aunty juliet's son.

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  NeverKnew

  ah.... sorry. Mixing up the murderers.... :-/
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  Crazy! I'm related to a TERRORIST!!

  by ThisFellowCheap in

  1. social
  2. current

  so, mum called this this afternoon and asked if i had heard of the london terror attacks, i replied that i know of it.. then she asked, don't you recognise him?".

  so i answered, "no".. mum: don't you recognise tobi?.

  mum: tobi, aunty juliet's son.

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  NeverKnew

  I believe you, but they're reporting that his parents are... Catholic.

  http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/24/world/europe/uk-woolwich-michael-adebolajo/index.html
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  "God loves me but He doesn't love you"

  by stillin in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  damn!

  how can you go around telling people that!

  ?.

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  NeverKnew

  Whether it's believed that the Bible is just a story or truth, I've seen hell clearly depicted despite Charles Taze Russell's "particular difficulty" with it as 17 year old who discarded the Bibleand the creeds of the churches (WT 1/1/1955, page 7) cause, you know, that's who I want to get my spiritual advice from....

  Now, I'm not quite sure whether I'm in the denomination who is loved or hated. Where in the Bible can I get that? Since I'm a Gentile, I'm hoping that the criteria is in the New Testament... like around Romans 14... I know where that is.
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  I am new here

  by Stauros in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi, just wanted to say hello.. i have my beliefs, my views, my opinions.

  i hope people respect them, and do not hate me for my beliefs.

  we all have the right to believe in what we choose.

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  NeverKnew

  Don't run Stauros... just duck.
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  I am new here

  by Stauros in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi, just wanted to say hello.. i have my beliefs, my views, my opinions.

  i hope people respect them, and do not hate me for my beliefs.

  we all have the right to believe in what we choose.

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  NeverKnew

  Welcome Stauros!

  Many will welcome your perspective. The broader the better!
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  Why won't JWs have "civilized" debates with home owners?

  by ilikecheese in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it seems kind of crazy to go to someone's house touting your religion as truth and then not even defend your own beliefs.

  why do jws stop the chat if someone just tries to calmly reason/debate with them?

  i'm not talking about crazy preachers who start slamming bibles and yelling about how they need jesus or something.

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  NeverKnew

  GRRRRRR....

  (hee-hee)
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  Why won't JWs have "civilized" debates with home owners?

  by ilikecheese in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it seems kind of crazy to go to someone's house touting your religion as truth and then not even defend your own beliefs.

  why do jws stop the chat if someone just tries to calmly reason/debate with them?

  i'm not talking about crazy preachers who start slamming bibles and yelling about how they need jesus or something.

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  NeverKnew

  AWatcher says:

  We're not there to debate with householders.

  We're searching for Jehovah's lost sheep.

  If you don't want to serve Jehovah with us, then you're not who we're looking for.

  Not taking a "no" personally.... that's a sales techinique on how to shake off rejection.

  I am a non-jw. You know what your last sentence says to me? It says, "If I have to support my claim of having the truth to you, I can't, so I am going to tell myself that YOU are the problem and go to the next house." Doesn't that attitude contradict the notions presented in the first 2 pages of chapter one "What Does the Bible really Teach? - I have three of them that have been provided to me if you need one.

  Sweetheart, if the WT were really serious about the salvation of others, you would be provided with real tools to explain your stance and honest information about other's stances - from Judaism, through Christianity, side-swiping Islam, getting a review of Buddhism and a real clue about Atheists so that you could sincerely overcome objections help them understand the truth, with respect to each perspective. They haven't. Ask yourself why you have to walk around half-informed? Why don't they promote the understanding of these other perspectives as the scriptures suggest?

  Proverbs 18:17 "The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him." and Proverbs 18:2 "A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his own opinion." Maybe take a look at 2 Cor 14 too.

  Sadly, it doesn't appear that any of you are coming to my door with your opinion nor are you coming with your understanding. You come to my door with someone ELSE'S opinion that you don't understand and aren't equipped to substantiate.

  HERE'S THE TRUTH

  Your machine's goal is to get you to find the most vulnerable of society who will put money in the contribution box. That's what you do for a spiritual living. Nothing more. You are a part of a sales organization. You are taught how to overcome objections at your meetings and you then pay (I mean, donate) for the materials to get more people to do the same. That's how MLM sales work. The jacked part of it is, you get no commission and the WT gets to realize a fresh residual income stream. Too bad for you.

  James 3:1 Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers....

  Grrr.... today, I'm having an emotionally tough day. I need to go and tame my tongue. I know why I can't be a teacher... *sigh*

  Guess I'll be taking another long walk.
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  Hard Wood Floors

  by MrFreeze in

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  2. physical

  does anybody have any tips on keeping hard-wood floors clean?

  seems like 10 minutes after i clean them they are a mess again.

  at least with carpet it was harder to notice all the little doodads that wind up on the floor.

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  NeverKnew

  Dry Swiffer... love mine. I get the cloths from Sams or Costco.