Posts by NeverKnew

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Is it a sign from Jehovah or just irony?

by dissonance_resolved in

jw
friends

so i signed up to volunteer at a local urban community center- first time i've ever volunteered for a non-jw effort.

i thought i would end up cleaning, organizing, something like that, but the first thing they wanted us to do was go door to door in the neighborhood handing out flyers!

face palm...

HELP!

by The Searcher in

i'd like to post a pdf of the july 15th watchtower with the highlighted nine reversals of teachings in it.

(the ones i've found so far) plus one or two comments i've added.

can anyone tell me how to upload it please?

"New NWT" Nightmare

by NeverKnew in

jw
friends

it was horrible.

my home's porch has a capacity of about 8-12 people depending on how the chairs are arranged.

seemed like every seat was filled.

It was horrible. My home's porch has a capacity of about 8-12 people depending on how the chairs are arranged. Seemed like every seat was filled. Nobody was familiar to me. They were dressed up - business suits and skirts. Comparatively speaking, I felt like I had on pajamas.

Finally, a male stated that it was time to start. I don't know how the hell he got to be in charge, but everyone pulled out electronic readers from their bags. I sat feeling the weight of my study Bible on my lap thinking about getting my Ipad but feeling like I shouldn't waste time. He prayed and two sentences in, he was speaking in another language. Opening my eyes to look around, I noticed that everyone had their eyes closed, but their lips all had this plastic grin on them. I decided I wouldn't let this quackery get to me. After the prayer, he reverted back to our native language (English) and suggested we read a passage from "our" Bibles. I thought I turned to the passage but then realized I must have not heard it correctly because my Bible said something totally different. I pulled my Bible close to my chest and intently listened to what he was saying. The passage sounded like Proverbs where sometimes the verses are disconnected. He stopped after a few random unrelated verses and asked if anyone had any questions. I had one but asking "wtf"probably would have disturbed my company.

He asked me what questions I had for them. I realized I was being set up. I asked him to read Isaiah 48:16 in his reader. He read something... but it wasn't Isaiah 48:16. I started feeling VERY uncomfortable. I asked him to compare Hebrews 1:8 then Psalm 102:25 knowing that they should have sounded similar. Again, nothing remotely familiar. A woman looked over her glasses and quietly asked, "Ma'am, do you need a reader?"

I have no memory of what happened after that.

This got me to thinking about how scary it would be if the WTS offered NWT readers that ONLY contained WTS publications. With an internet connection, the WTS could update the literature to say whatever they want it to say. JWs who owned this "convenient" device would of course have no problems with obtaining God's spritual food AHEAD of the KH delivery schedule for just $35 a month/device! This, of course, would not replace the expected literature donations for the message couldn't be spread on a device, right?

I'm watching the profits sour.

Lower production of WT Study magazines so a reduction in personnel/printing/mailing costs

Lower production of hardbound books so once again, a reduction in personnel/printing/mailing costs.

AND, a new income stream! They can make profits from:

the devices,

insurance (SURELY one would want to insure this magnificent electronic device for a mere $10/month)

monthly subscriptions

OH, and don't forget the accessories, you'll need cases, car chargers and extra wall chargers, won't you?

AND THEY WILL HAVE TOTAL CONTROL!

The smart shoppers will realize that next year, the color screen model will be available (re-purchase), then the following year a FASTER model will be available (re-purchase), then the following year the NEXT best thing.

Would they be this shady?

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What about your vow to Jehovah?

by a watcher in

did you get baptized without being dedicated?.

why did you allow men to come between you and jehovah?.

why were you serving jehovah at all?

NeverKnew

Jeffro weren't you chasing me this morning/last night? Pulling my hair and hitting me with soccer balls? I thought I was the cutest on the playground?

So before I read another few pages, has it been decided whether AWatcher is serious?

Edit: Oh brother... nevermind... and wow.

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What about your vow to Jehovah?

by a watcher in

did you get baptized without being dedicated?.

why did you allow men to come between you and jehovah?.

why were you serving jehovah at all?

NeverKnew

Is awatcher a born-in?

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Numbers don't lie :The End of JESUS...

by raymond frantz in

(1john2:22,23)who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that jesus is the christ?

this is the antichrist, the one that denies the father and the son.

23 everyone that denies the son does not have the father either.

NeverKnew

I'm having fun with this quantitative analysis.Eden... even if it should be qualitative!

and I think Jeffro has a playgrounf crush on me. (giggling)

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Numbers don't lie :The End of JESUS...

by raymond frantz in

(1john2:22,23)who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that jesus is the christ?

this is the antichrist, the one that denies the father and the son.

23 everyone that denies the son does not have the father either.

NeverKnew

I gave my statistical opinion on an assertion JW Gonebad was making about the Yearbook publication and what his data reflected.

I do know that a more appropriate statistical representation of his data would be a comparison of the ratio of references to Jesus to references to Jehovah and that using HIS data, the statistical representation of HIS data supports his claim.

The rest of each of your assertions could only serve as additional information for me.

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Numbers don't lie :The End of JESUS...

by raymond frantz in

(1john2:22,23)who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that jesus is the christ?

this is the antichrist, the one that denies the father and the son.

23 everyone that denies the son does not have the father either.

NeverKnew

My post was with respect to JW Gonebad's claim...

Reference to our Lord Jesus Christ in WT literature has been on the wane for a really long time. The Yearbook of Jehovah’s Witnesses, as an example, which is printed annually to report on the ‘Christian’ ministry of the JW’s worldwide reflects a gigantic deficit on the emphasis placed on Jesus as opposed to Jehovah :

On the wane?... well, yeah... looking at the ensuing years from the 70's the ratio has been on the decline... we need 8 more years of data to support another drop.

Gigantic deficit?... well, 50% from the earliest recorded decade is statistically significant.

Now, you are absolutely correct that the data may be in error... but now that I think about it, it's PROPORTIONATELY erroneous.

If JW Gonebad wants to, s/he can rerun the numbers to improve his/her quantitative analysis by removing "Jehovah's Witnesses" (and any other parallel references like "Jehovah's Christian Congregation? ... not sure) from the criteria.

Thanks for the correction!

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Numbers don't lie :The End of JESUS...

by raymond frantz in

(1john2:22,23)who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that jesus is the christ?

this is the antichrist, the one that denies the father and the son.

23 everyone that denies the son does not have the father either.

NeverKnew

You obviously don't know me.

Yeah... unfortunately that's kinda how this site works. LOL

Still luv ya!

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Numbers don't lie :The End of JESUS...

by raymond frantz in

(1john2:22,23)who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that jesus is the christ?

this is the antichrist, the one that denies the father and the son.

23 everyone that denies the son does not have the father either.

NeverKnew

AH! Good point!

SO, perhaps we need to modify EdenOne's calculation slightly by reducing the number of honorable mentions of "Jehovah" by the combo "Jehovah's Witnesses".

Great catch! :)

Edit: And we don't need to know how often Jesus *should* be mentioned. The poster's concerns were related to a reduction in mentions so therefore the WTS can be used as a barometer against itself.