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  Special Meeting at Bethel by GB just before Annual Meeting

  by notsurewheretogo in

  1. watchtower
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  i see there is a special meeting held by the gb at bethel a week before the annual meeting.. .

  wonder what that will be about?.

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  Announcement of a new Governing Body member...

  They have to vote on it first.

  Edit: That reads like I'm making an announcement. I have no idea... just a guess.
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  WT for this Sunday...You are My Witnesses

  by Legacy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wt 7/15/2014....page 27...question # 17...what will we consider in the next article...paragraph 17...but how can we be jehovah witnesses and at the same time be witnesses of jesus....well well well...i think they really got the point...all through the greek scriptures, that's what jesus has been saying...we are to witness about him....in the hebrews scriptures was about jehovah god, most of the world got that.

  now jehovah, put another spoke in the wheel his son...jesus...that's who paul has been talking about all along...that he was witness of jesus, paul knew who god was.

  i think the society monitors sites like these & others & found out....they may have been, uh...wrong....wonder how are they going to spin this one off....i won't read the next article just yet... comments anyone ..... legacy.

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  BORG running low on $$$??

  by fader77 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  dear brothers:.

  re: personal literature supply.

  reducing existing stock at the branch office before the revisions are released.

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  JW07 says, "Only 'apostates' will be hording literature at home."

  But doesn't it feel good to know it will be preserved on a hard drive or in a cloud? Now you have garage space!

  OH, how some on this board will envy those that are "in" for the literature grab. How much do ya' think that Trinity Brochure will go for in 10 years?
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  WT Nov. 1, 2011 (public) - When Was Ancient Jerusalem Destroyed - Part 2

  by AnnOMaly in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  out now.. yes, yes, yessssss!

  on p. 26-27 they talk about how the lunar positions on vat 4956 fit 588/7 bce!!!.

  "clearly, much of the astronomical data in vat 4956 fits the year 588 b.c.e.

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  marking

  I know it's old, but I've been handed this article.... again.
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  My JW mom is now willing to "listen" to our side...Need advice pls

  by 2pink in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my husband and i (both born in jws with extended family all "in" except for one of my sisters who left when we did) left the church 5 years ago.

  we did not fade, we just didn't believe it anymore, told our families so and left.

  obviously, big drama in our family after this, messy feelings, etc.

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  NeverKnew

  Oh... sloppy... I had a conversation with an elder on Romans 6. He focused on verse 23. I asked him to show me where, in the chapter, Paul spoke of a physical death and not the death of sin at the point of baptism. He couldn't.

  Ask her why, in the WDTBRT book James 1:13 is about God's will on page 10 and man's will on page 29.

  How about... why, on the same page of the WDTBRT book, there's a sentence that says God is NEVER the source of wickedness you see in the world? Can that be reconciled with Proverbs 16:4, Isaiah 45:7, Exodus 4:11, Eccl 7:14, Amos 3:6, 1 Peter 4:19 and the point of the story of the potter as told in the Old and New Testaments? Go to Romans 9:10-25 and focus on verses 18-23. What do we do with THAT truth? Was Jeremiah lamenting Satan's activities in Lamentations (look at chapter 2) or the hurt caused by the Lord's wrath?

  Who brought the Great Flood?... (I suspect she'll tell you THOSE people were evil!)

  Who killed the 70,000? Were THEY all evil? Did those events "happen" or were those events "caused" by the Lord?

  If you set the trigger correctly, you'll hear about "the churches" saying "a death is God's will"... ask what the WTS does with James 4:15 and to ask if "this or that" is scripturally defined. If it is, I want to avoid that activity.
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  how many normal people would only go to the dub website?

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  all this campaign going on got me to thinking, a normal person having received a tract about the jw website, would they only go to that one website if they were in any way interested?

  would they really not click on any links that would also appear about jw's?

  would they really not read about them from other sources too?.

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  Wow... Kairos. That really puts it into perspective. If 8,000,000 witnesses placed a tract each (as in one for the entire month), we're talking a success rate for personal visit requests of .045%?

  With more than one tract per adherent disseminated, that incredible success rate diminishes exponentially. I feel so sorry for those that I care about right now.

  Anybody know the average number of tracts typically disseminated per person?
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  how many normal people would only go to the dub website?

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  all this campaign going on got me to thinking, a normal person having received a tract about the jw website, would they only go to that one website if they were in any way interested?

  would they really not click on any links that would also appear about jw's?

  would they really not read about them from other sources too?.

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  ...."the majority of those who receieved tracts will not go to the website"

  I'll take it further. The only conceivable reason I could see a non-jw going to the website would be to understand why someone in their social sphere who IS a JW operates a certain way. ...so as not to offend them.

  People who are disinterested in religion, are definitely disinterested in a religion that requires a lot of effort.

  People who are interested in religion are probably already involved in their own faiths. As a JW, if a Mormon had left you a tract with their website address would you have been running to your computer to check it out?

  People who are entertained by religion might go but they'd only be there for the entertainment.

  Mass conversions? Ain't gonna happen...

  I do not believe that this campaign has anything to do with the conversion of non-jws. I believe the goal is to promote that feeling of purpose amongst the adherents. Keep em busy fulfilling a purpose and they'll feel good about paying for that feeling through their donations.
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  how many normal people would only go to the dub website?

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  all this campaign going on got me to thinking, a normal person having received a tract about the jw website, would they only go to that one website if they were in any way interested?

  would they really not click on any links that would also appear about jw's?

  would they really not read about them from other sources too?.

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  NeverKnew

  I'm a non-jw.

  My "normal" friends know that I have JW associates so they've told me they got the tracts.

  None showed the slightest interest in visiting the site. ...not even out of curiousity to confirm that which I've told them.

  It may as well be an ad for a discounted oil change.
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  What Happened to the Religion I Left in 1995?

  by JoshJeffries in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  josh here, new to the board.

  glad to know this site is here.. i would not be writing this if it were not 2014. i was a ministerial servant and regular pioneer who left the jehovahs witnesses back in 1995/96, around that time.

  i left suddenly, didnt fade away, just left when something clicked one day in my head during the morning shower and made me realize this religion wasnt true.

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  NeverKnew

  Welcome Josh!

  Wondering if your post might contribute to a long time Witnesses awakening. I hope so.

  I'll be excited to read your thoughts on other changes.
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  Any recent wack-a-doodle elder comments in your congo lately?

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  our go-to wack-a-doodle elder moved to a new congregation a few years back.

  the position has been vacant since then.. we had an elder move in a few months back.

  he appears to be angling for the position of resident wack-a-doodle.. at last night's service meeting, he said (paraphrased): "as a congregation, we've been busier than ever before with our special campaign.

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  NeverKnew

  One platform topic that seemed a little "off" to me was when the speaker asked if anyone had noticed the unusual increase of birds. The audience pondered for a moment. Then, with facial expressions of enlightenment nodded in curious agreement.

  "Has anyone read what Jehovah's plan is for the birds?" he asked. He continued with 2-3 scriptural passages about Armageddon's flesh eating birds. I looked around to see some nodding in agreement and smiling as the speaker spoke of only the JWs being saved.

  I've visited a LOT of churches and synogogues, but this was definitely the darkest service I'd EVER attended.