ok, i'm willing, and thinking about going to the meetings, but there is a catch.
i'm not, nor ever be a jw.
i know too much about their beliefs.
I agree with Stan. If you are going for the experience of knowing, go to a hall across town.
Im a non JW too. Is there value to my going? Yeah but only to watch family and friends cringe when they begin their diatribe on hating everyone who isn't involved with the cult. I've lectured them on this.
But please realize, being married with kids is different than my situation. I can see no good that will come out of your going.
when i was a member of watchtower corporation, i regularly heard how it must be the true religion because of the growth™.
(phenomenal, apparently).. i wonder if they still hang onto this?
has it been boasted about at meetings recently?
When I talk to witnesses, they speak of the size of their group as being huge. In their minds the number is mind boggling.
My response has been, "oh, so your worldwide group is about half the size of our state? I guess that's not bad. How many are in the US? (Wait for answer)... Ah... Ok. Pretty much the population of our county. For 100 years of preaching work, that sounds like a start."
I did attend a midweek where that Amsterdam movie was shown. The real joke was when they were making a big deal about the multi language literature. Given the sorry number of Bible translations in comparison to traditional Christianity, they really should pipe down. Oh... I'm sorry. The literature that INTERPRETS the Bible is in more languages than their Bible. That's right. 🙄 Traditional Christianity doesn't produce interpretive material. Noooooo
l was wondering if others have noticed this or is just my imagination?my sister whom has always been a fine example of a dub just got married to an outsider was a shock to everyone as no one knew she was dating an outsider.she seems happy.the elders are to shit scared of her to approach her about the matter.
Does there seem to be more JW females taking on non JW spouses or is it going both ways?
Men having more spiritual glamour (I.e. Privileges) to lose may play heavily on their choices.
l was wondering if others have noticed this or is just my imagination?my sister whom has always been a fine example of a dub just got married to an outsider was a shock to everyone as no one knew she was dating an outsider.she seems happy.the elders are to shit scared of her to approach her about the matter.
Nonjwspouse I completely and wholeheartedly agree with you. The JW party MUST lie to to the nonJW from day 1. Their real perception that eventually comes out is not one of mutual respect for the religious (or non religious) beliefs from which you've come. Once it comes out, the condescending arrogance that you're faced with is unreal.
Many books cover the dual personality of a cult member. At the point of realization that there really are two distinct personalities, a non JW is gobsmacked. I know for me, there was something very wrong when we talked about religion. The logic applied to certain concepts just didn't fit the model of the man I had come to love.
In defense of them, how does one know that they are under mind control... When they are under mind control?
For that reason, I have to suspend condemnation when off-putting things are said. When off-putting things are done they get called on it big time.
alright, so i posted earlier this week about my desire to put together some sort of campaign to target the friends and family that shun us before the regional convention part on shunning.
my goal is to produce a postcard that can be mailed out to those that shun us to contrast shunning and love before it is cemented in their minds this summer.
i want to make them think twice.
the resurrection is supposed to be a joyous occasion?, if it ever happened!
--well, this week's showing at the hall was the opposite, it was about death with violins playing in the background.
a recently bereaved member, , full of tears, (like many others) could not contain herself.
Non JW here. Not my first go around at the mid week meeting but my first seeing a video in the middle of a service.
I was confused by the video. I didn't get the religious component. After looking at a few people wipe their eyes, I realized there was some emotional manipulation going on. It was just a weird experience.
I'm the biggest crybaby watching movies but while others must have felt differently, I felt completely disconnected from the characters for some reason.
in my book, i wept by the rivers of babylon, i described the process of having a friend, johnny santa cruz, use our friendship as a platform for converting me to a jehovah's witness.. that friendship cost me decades of my life in bondage to a cult.. the friendship was real and johnny and i bonded for life.
but, the religion eventually turned him into a stone silence toward me--his oldest friend.
now he is dead and the imaginary reunion and meeting of the minds is no longer a possibility.. this makes his passing a double tragedy.. his memories were my memories.
I don't get the permission part.
It might be that I've never been a JW.
If the funeral hasn't happened yet I say stop acting as an ex-JW and operate as a non JW and show the hell up out of respect for HIM.
the pledge is over and all the children sit back down at their desks.
many kids look at keith as he walks back into the classroom.
then your religion is weird.” .
I say go for it New Boy!
It seems like many JWs I know would relate so far.
Hopefully the intended audience is JWs AND non-JWs. I'm trying to get these types of books under the noses of non-jws these days.
i'm hearing rumours of huge changes within the berkshire circuit here in the uk .
congregations being dispanded and kingdom halls closing down and being sold off.... official announcements within the next month apparently .
does anyone else have anymore info?.
it is a challenge coming to terms with your experience as a jehovah's witness.
if you were born and raised as a jw, and your parents were true believers, the impact on your life is profound, lasting, and largely negative.
in some cases quite abusive emotionally, spiritually, financially, educationally and yes, even sexually.. i recently watched "trumbo", and was quite moved by dalton trumbo's speech to the screen writers guild in 1970. here is an excerpt that i think is quite relevant to this topic:.
