Posts by NeverKnew

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So if you tell a JW they were raised in a cult...

by NeverKnew in

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yeah...it was wrong.

i got upset and blurted this truth.

seems kinda screwy that telling someone a truth could be wrong.

NeverKnew

And another question, if any of you had truly been in love with a worldly, and had been given numerous examples of inconsistencies... would there have been ANY chance you would have heard them?

Did this happen for any of you?

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So if you tell a JW they were raised in a cult...

by NeverKnew in

jw
friends

yeah...it was wrong.

i got upset and blurted this truth.

seems kinda screwy that telling someone a truth could be wrong.

NeverKnew

IF I remember correctly DD, your wife is still in?

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So if you tell a JW they were raised in a cult...

by NeverKnew in

jw
friends

yeah...it was wrong.

i got upset and blurted this truth.

seems kinda screwy that telling someone a truth could be wrong.

NeverKnew

Codependent behavior? Uh... I've got a lot more going on than him. But thanks for the advice!

TAI, you're a Sweetheart... :)

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First public talk as an "apostate"

by Borges in

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i gave a lot of talks as a jw.

beeing the only elder in a cong for almost three years, i've been on the platform at every meeting (also at ca and dc).

but thats long ago.

emailed PDF's count as placements!

by wallsofjericho in

sorry if this has already been discussed.. but at the service meeting this week on jw.org it was clearly stated by our cobe that pdf's from jw.org that are emialed to interested persons count as placements!!!.

okay folks, next time you get a circular spam email, copy all the recipients and there is your contact list.

email thousands of people watchtower pdf's and watch the placements soar through the roof!!!.

NeverKnew

How is that mimicking Christ???? Surely they can't find scripture to support that...

Does this mean that they're going to have to create a new category count in the yearbook for the "electronic transmission" ministry?

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5 stages of dealing with TTATT?

by El_Guapo in

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thanks to this website and jwfacts, i have come to learn the "infamous" ttatt.. i've had soooo many emotions the last couple months.. (fyi: i've been baptized since '95 third gen jw, elder father and every other member of my family is a regular pioneer).

i was wondering, like dealing with greif : are there 5 stages for dealing with ttatt?.

NeverKnew

Now I'm wondering if the belief that you'll see your loved ones again after Armageddon makes it easier to take them for granted while they're alive and you're working for the WT.

If that's the case, and you decide not to accept the possibility of a heavenly hope (which truly is your journey) this would be a horrific realization to deal with...

LHG - not knowing what you don't know... I could easily see myself finding peace in your construct. :)

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Good Reasons To Hate Every Weak And Ex-Jehovah Witness.

by AuntConnie in

1. my husband's time is finite, it's wasted on spouses arguing over money, sex or family mattters with stupid home visits.. .

i hate people's constant open hand for money, it's the weak individuals asking others to pull their weight.

my family worked extra hours instead of begging the strong members for district assembly money, cat food for seven cats or tiny little rag-a-muffins weiner dogs.. .

NeverKnew

Aguest, I loved your story. I alluded to this challenge in another thread with respect to a time when I was in an abusive marriage.

I'm definitely using this story elsewhere! :)

JGNAT, perfect response!

AC, many here seem to have gone through parallel situations. I hope you're *listening.*

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So if you tell a JW they were raised in a cult...

by NeverKnew in

jw
friends

yeah...it was wrong.

i got upset and blurted this truth.

seems kinda screwy that telling someone a truth could be wrong.

NeverKnew

OH, and nobody knows about me which yes, I'm insulted by...

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So if you tell a JW they were raised in a cult...

by NeverKnew in

jw
friends

yeah...it was wrong.

i got upset and blurted this truth.

seems kinda screwy that telling someone a truth could be wrong.

NeverKnew

HAHAHAHA!!!! YEP! He and I dated in the 90's before he was an active JW. Circumstantially, we ended up in other relationships but still loved each other. After marrying another woman (worldly too) and falling on very hard times, he ran straight for baptism without her. They divorced a few years ago.

We ran into each other last year. He's been praying that I'd "get" the doctrines and he sincerely believed that once I was baptised (yeah, he made that leap) we would live in this truth happily ever after.

Unfortunately for him, I'm an empty nestor with nothing to do BUT research and needless to say, my baptism ain't happening.

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Amway

by enigma1863 in

i was curious, how many jws end up getting caught up in pyramid scemes like amway.

i was caught up in there online program quixstar for a little while several years ago.

i noticed there are several similarities between amway and a cult..

NeverKnew

DF: I dated a guy who was an Executive Director of a network marketing phone card company. In that company, it was the top level. OH, he had the story (you have to have a story about being tired of your job you quit)... and the law degree (you could be successful ANYwhere, but you choose this path)... and the real estate holdings (yeah... about that bankruptcy) blah blah blah... We travelled to places like Maui, Hawaii and Florida on company expense paid trips since he was at the top level of the company. I, too was involved with the company.

The meetings after the meetings? ... downright cruel to people who were really sincerely trying. I listened as deals were made and downlines were traded to build one up and take from another. I listened as suggestions to build one leg fully and THEN the other were made to "adherents" while the uplines built legs together. The facade is that you'll be able to sit around on your butt and the money will just come pouring in... NOT!!!!! You own a job.

Let's see. If my memory serves me correctly:

Monday: Make reminder calls to potentials for the Tuesday night call

Tuesday: Call the people you couldn't reach Monday to remind them to be on the call. After the national call, call your house party host to encourage THEM to make reminder calls for their Wednesday party and then their Saturday party. Stay on phone to demonstrate what they should and should not say and how to respond to criticism.

Wednesday: House party

Thursday: Hotel meeting

Friday: Call downline leaders and confirm weekend plans

Saturday: Attend three 2 hour house parties in your downline to ensure their motivation.

Sunday: Try and squeeze two get-togethers for signing up & misc.

Then? I drove a 7 year old 5 Series BMW that my w-2 income and credit score allowed for and that people oooed and awwed about... Let's just say the time invested into the company and travelling expenses was, in no way, covered by the pittance earned. I did not feel free at all....

Just my opinion....

Now, I drive a 2013 Benz and own rental property. The rental property requires a trip to pick up my checks and a trip to the bank once a month. If there's a problem, I meet someone to fix it.

Now THAT'S life. :)